Speedo backlight

Started by Milky1112, March 13, 2014, 19:32:55 PM

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CDNRatMan

  I'll have to see if i can find them around here, might have to try in Toronto.

GPS is not to get you THERE but rather to get you home from THERE

Milky1112

Quote from: CDNRatMan on March 25, 2014, 12:25:49 PM

ok none electrical person that I am not wanting to go outside my comfort zone on this I'll stick to the amber bulb I have in place and check it out again tonight and see if that is the route I want to go.....

http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/miniature-wedge-base/74-led-bulb-3-smd-led-wide-angle-wedge-base/228/

Thinking of trying these Rat.. 74's are a direct plug in.. No wire soldering required. They do have 3 way SMD so would allow more light then what i currently have in my Dome type. Price is reasonable for a shot. 2b, What you think?


2beers

Quote from: CDNRatMan on March 25, 2014, 12:25:49 PM

ok none electrical person that I am not wanting to go outside my comfort zone on this I'll stick to the amber bulb I have in place

Ditto.  If 2beers comes across a red replacement bulb in his travels, you'll be the first to know!
We've always been car crazy.  We've always been bike crazy.  Most people agree we're just plain crazy.

2beers

Quote from: Milky1112 on March 25, 2014, 12:12:33 PM

Makes sense.. what did you seal the back of the bulbs with? I can splice in bulbs.. i have some 194's at home and if you aren't useing the blue.... let me know =)

Rubber splicing tape for a tight fit, and clear silicone.  Gee, would you like us to send a blue one down to FL?  If you do, PM.  ;)

--2bb (That's so much easier to type...)

We've always been car crazy.  We've always been bike crazy.  Most people agree we're just plain crazy.

CDNRatMan

ok none electrical person that I am not wanting to go outside my comfort zone on this I'll stick to the amber bulb I have in place and check it out again tonight and see if that is the route I want to go.....

GPS is not to get you THERE but rather to get you home from THERE

Milky1112

Quote from: 2beers on March 25, 2014, 11:59:08 AM

The bulb that 2beers decided on is a 194.  Here's a couple of pics in case you want to follow this path. The bulbs were purchased for $12.99 for a pack of 2 at a chrome shop somewhere in the US at some point in the recent past... Sorry, Ratman, even if you wanted to do this mod, we don't have another red bulb in house. Milky, we do have a couple of the blue.

2beers wants to emphasize that he takes no responsibility for damages or insanity that may occur during the replication of this modification.  Don't run with scissors. Adult supervision is required. Go with God.

When you hone out the hole for the original socket to accommodate the larger bulb, be careful. 2beers had a snow globe going on inside the speedo between the glass and the faceplate from the plastic shavings...

The 194 bulb also does not fit into the oem socket. 2beers soldered the bulb's pins onto wires that he spliced into the harness, bypassing the stock socket. Its a somewhat reversible mod this way.

Now do you know why Princess has a stock bulb, just a different color lol?

Regards, 2bb  :)

Makes sense.. what did you seal the back of the bulbs with? I can splice in bulbs.. i have some 194's at home and if you aren't useing the blue.... let me know =)


2beers

The bulb that 2beers decided on is a 194.  Here's a couple of pics in case you want to follow this path. The bulbs were purchased for $12.99 for a pack of 2 at a chrome shop somewhere in the US at some point in the recent past... Sorry, Ratman, even if you wanted to do this mod, we don't have another red bulb in house. Milky, we do have a couple of the blue.

2beers wants to emphasize that he takes no responsibility for damages or insanity that may occur during the replication of this modification.  Don't run with scissors. Adult supervision is required. Go with God.

When you hone out the hole for the original socket to accommodate the larger bulb, be careful. 2beers had a snow globe going on inside the speedo between the glass and the faceplate from the plastic shavings...

The 194 bulb also does not fit into the oem socket. 2beers soldered the bulb's pins onto wires that he spliced into the harness, bypassing the stock socket. Its a somewhat reversible mod this way.

Now do you know why Princess has a stock bulb, just a different color lol?

Regards, 2bb  :)

We've always been car crazy.  We've always been bike crazy.  Most people agree we're just plain crazy.

Milky1112

Quote from: 2beers on March 25, 2014, 11:29:40 AM

Its a small phillips head screwdriver that you need. You cant see down in there, but you can find that small screw with the phillips. Blue had desert dust sealing it up (AZ dirt and spider eggs are still being found everywhere) but Its there.

I just manage to work around it lol.. still get to bulbs by taking screws out that mount speedo to frame.. Now back to our question.. Where can we aquire said bulbs?!?!

2beers

Quote from: Milky1112 on March 25, 2014, 09:47:59 AM

I can't get the trip reset knob off mine.. Can't see screw inside nothing.. so i can't detatch the speedo completely to mess with it..

Its a small phillips head screwdriver that you need. You cant see down in there, but you can find that small screw with the phillips. Blue had desert dust sealing it up (AZ dirt and spider eggs are still being found everywhere) but Its there.
We've always been car crazy.  We've always been bike crazy.  Most people agree we're just plain crazy.

Milky1112

Quote from: CDNRatMan on March 25, 2014, 11:18:38 AM

YES by all means 2bb (2beers bride) let us know where we can purchase said bulbs, and I can move on with this.....would look awesome on my red bike.......

Where's a +1 button when you need it lol...

CDNRatMan

  YES by all means 2bb (2beers bride) let us know where we can purchase said bulbs, and I can move on with this.....would look awesome on my red bike.......

GPS is not to get you THERE but rather to get you home from THERE

Milky1112

Quote from: 2beers on March 25, 2014, 10:03:13 AM

I believe this is the final decision by 2beers for Blue.  He wound up using a red LED bulb that he had laying around in the truck parts section, lol. It is the type that has LED pads around the circumference as well as on the top of the bulb. And it's just a tad larger, the top hole for the bulb has been routed out slightly to accommodate it. Fabrication Nation stuff always occurs with 2beers...make it fit!

That's the look i'm going for. What bulbs did he use.. and does he have any to spare? lol Now i gotta find Blue LED's for teh wife's Shadow.. she saw mine and made her request.. lol

2beers

I believe this is the final decision by 2beers for Blue.  He wound up using a red LED bulb that he had laying around in the truck parts section, lol. It is the type that has LED pads around the circumference as well as on the top of the bulb. And it's just a tad larger, the top hole for the bulb has been routed out slightly to accommodate it. Fabrication Nation stuff always occurs with 2beers...make it fit!

We've always been car crazy.  We've always been bike crazy.  Most people agree we're just plain crazy.

Milky1112

#84
Quote from: 2beers on March 25, 2014, 09:43:26 AM

If our speedo housings are the same as yours, then you'll be able to see what we're looking at this morning.  If it's a different plastic housing, then maybe your high beam works differently??  They look to have the same part number...

Ick, I don't think I want to swim in that pool, btw!

2beers is finding out now that the regular bulb casts a larger glow in the gauge than the LED bulb.  The LED is brighter where it's illuminating the top of the gauge, but its not reaching further down as well as the regular bulb.  We'll let you know...

--The Bride

Big question is.. If you look at the IPB i posted from bike bandit... between the two standard bulb P/N's there is that "Board" we shall call it.. which looks to house bulbs.. Guessing by the other two wires that drift into that hole in speedo (atleast on mine) that could house the LED's for the Neutral and Bright?

I can't get the trip reset knob off mine.. Can't see screw inside nothing.. so i can't detatch the speedo completely to mess with it..
Keep us posted. Work is in the way of experimenting hahaha.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/led-vehicle-replacement-bulbs/24-led-bulb-1-smd-led-wedge-base/229/ Is another option i might try as well...

2beers

Quote from: Milky1112 on March 25, 2014, 09:24:59 AM

Going to have to pull mine apart.. if that was the case.. then my lower speedo light should work cause i have no illumination on the right half of the speedo. (as you can see from picture) The Neutral and High beam work normally... makes as much sense as having a peeing section in the pool. so alas.. Will rip her apart tonight.. yank out bulb.. fire it up and test once more. Just wanna know why other light isn't working.

If our speedo housings are the same as yours, then you'll be able to see what we're looking at this morning.  If it's a different plastic housing, then maybe your high beam works differently??  They look to have the same part number...

Ick, I don't think I want to swim in that pool, btw!

2beers is finding out now that the regular bulb casts a larger glow in the gauge than the LED bulb.  The LED is brighter where it's illuminating the top of the gauge, but its not reaching further down as well as the regular bulb.  We'll let you know...

--The Bride

We've always been car crazy.  We've always been bike crazy.  Most people agree we're just plain crazy.

Milky1112

Quote from: 2beers on March 25, 2014, 09:18:57 AM

Well, guys, I feel like I'm beating a dead horse, but here's a pic of the back of Blue's 2000 speedometer.   I held it up to the sunlight so you can see the enclosed tube that leads from the lower speedometer light...to the blue lens of the high beam.  So, our gauges only have one instrumentation light, the one at the top.  Hope this helps!

Btw, 2beers has his speedometer apart again this morning because, as has been mentioned here, the blue is just too darn bright...it's also the wrong hue of blue for Blue lol.  He's wavering between red and amber right now, LED or regular bulb.  The big truck has a supply of all of the aforementioned, yes it's a trucker thing...

Going to have to pull mine apart.. if that was the case.. then my lower speedo light should work cause i have no illumination on the right half of the speedo. (as you can see from picture) The Neutral and High beam work normally... makes as much sense as having a peeing section in the pool. so alas.. Will rip her apart tonight.. yank out bulb.. fire it up and test once more. Just wanna know why other light isn't working.

2beers

Well, guys, I feel like I'm beating a dead horse, but here's a pic of the back of Blue's 2000 speedometer.   I held it up to the sunlight so you can see the enclosed tube that leads from the lower speedometer light...to the blue lens of the high beam.  So, our gauges only have one instrumentation light, the one at the top.  Hope this helps!

Btw, 2beers has his speedometer apart again this morning because, as has been mentioned here, the blue is just too darn bright...it's also the wrong hue of blue for Blue lol.  He's wavering between red and amber right now, LED or regular bulb.  The big truck has a supply of all of the aforementioned, yes it's a trucker thing...

We've always been car crazy.  We've always been bike crazy.  Most people agree we're just plain crazy.

Milky1112

Quote from: CDNRatMan on March 24, 2014, 22:00:45 PM

ok 2200 hrs. right now so too late to worry about lights tonight. But both my hi beam and neutral lite have been working but the 92069B is not working. Will check everything again in the morning.....

Seems all of us have killed our lower bulbs somehow... Which doesn't make sense. lol.. Fuse maybe?

CDNRatMan

  ok 2200 hrs. right now so too late to worry about lights tonight. But both my hi beam and neutral lite have been working but the 92069B is not working. Will check everything again in the morning.....

GPS is not to get you THERE but rather to get you home from THERE

2beers

Aah, ha...looks like i read that one wrong, sorry guys!  Wonder if my lower bulb works?  I may open it up again tomorrow and put the other NA in...

The Bride

We've always been car crazy.  We've always been bike crazy.  Most people agree we're just plain crazy.

Milky1112

#77
Quote from: 2beers on March 24, 2014, 19:58:55 PM

Milky, same note to you as I just typed to Ratman. I thought the lower light was the high beam indicator. I'll go check the wiring diagram that Ratman so kindly forwarded...

I have a standard bulb in there currently, problem i have now tho.. NO Bulb is working in there.., Just tested that theory... I cranked bike (knowing i have 1 bulb out) tossed brights on.. She lit up.. If you look at http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/2002-kawasaki-vulcan-800-drifter-vn800e/o/m149359?a=11#sch290033, You'll see a "bar" between the two standard bulbs, that should house the 2 LED's for neutral and high beams. The lower bulb is for trip odo and right half of Speedometer it seems.
Here's pic... High beam werks still no right/lower speedo

2beers

#76

Milky, same note to you as I just typed to Ratman. I thought the lower light was the high beam indicator. I'll go check the wiring diagram that Ratman so kindly forwarded...

And the red light looks great!  Btw, If your wife wants blue, then she shall have blue  :).

The Bride

We've always been car crazy.  We've always been bike crazy.  Most people agree we're just plain crazy.

Milky1112

So here she is.. RED LED!!!!! Found that my lower socket is bad... So have to replace that one.. But have atleast 1 light working for the time being. These are 74 dome type LED bulbs. Here's the Amazon link where I ordered them http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AR1JXNM/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Once i get socket done.. I'll post another pic of the whole thing. Funny part is... I get mine done... Show the wife.. next words out of her mouth.. "I want mine to be blue"..... (Sorry for crappy pic, phones don' t like the dark.. and my fat hand is covering neutral light.)


2beers

Quote from: CDNRatMan on March 23, 2014, 19:30:52 PM

I have traced the no power all the way to the igniter. So stopped there and will just live with it for now.

Ratman, the NA pic is of just one bulb replaced, the one at the top of the housing. The other one looked like it illuminated the high beam indicator, so i left it alone. The neutral light LED seems to be encased beyond where even 2beers delved into. Does your '99 have 2 bulbs that light the gauge face?

The Bride

We've always been car crazy.  We've always been bike crazy.  Most people agree we're just plain crazy.

Milky1112

Quote from: CDNRatMan on March 24, 2014, 11:17:12 AM

ok Official today, I went to all auto parts store, or stores that carry auto "stuff" wedge type bulbs type 194, 74, 24 I can get in amber or clear, nothing else, unless I order a box of 24 and the shipping is $10.00, so I'll stick to amber for now.

Ouch! Still waiting on amazon to deliver mine... I will check and see if it's possible to order some down here for under that.. if so.. can work something out.

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