A little help please....

Started by Squid4life, June 21, 2014, 06:55:51 AM

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Gooseberrie

The bike has easy adjustable levers? Perhaps they have been removed. You then perhaps did not pull them in quite far enough, try on the highest setting, 5.

My battery charger keeps the battery on 12,6 or sometimes 12,7 Volt after it brings it there any faster with a small internal resistor. This is supposed to be for longer life. I checked with a multimeter. There is plenty of electricity on the bike the Voltage being this low. It is, and should be, a 18 Amps.

Sure the battery died when empty, what sort of a shop is that! On the other hand, a bad battery will be empty much sooner. Test it for surface charge by discharging halfway with all the lights on. Unnecessary to say this should take a period of time. This may also recover some misused batteries from sulphite on the plates. Do not ride with batteries that are partially charged or are loosing charge when riding.

Bikes like this may not have a running engine with completely depleted batteries after jumpstarts. Solve all the possible battery issues. Then report back. When you sell this new to you motorbike, then what luxury, well painted, 2 up bike could you prefer? With cardan, counter weight, hydraulic valve lifters, twin-spark, water cooled, everything accessible, strong headlight (running out of LED paper).

Did the body shop keep the bike outside in Winter? Then also rock the Panic button back and forth. It should not be in gear. Simple but true. New to you bikes are a learning experience. Greetings. Alfred - The Netherlands. Now 2000+ kilometer owner.


aralph

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Quote from: Troll on June 22, 2014, 14:33:46 PM

Since this bike has been sitting around a lot, perhaps the clutch plates are stuck together? Not changing the oil, and disuse will often do this to wet clutches.

This was the problem when I got my '02 1500. The PO hardly rode it and the bike had sat for quite awhile.
Had to replace the clutch.

Troll

Since this bike has been sitting around a lot, perhaps the clutch plates are stuck together? Not changing the oil, and disuse will often do this to wet clutches. Adding about 3 oz of seafoam to the oil, and let the engine run till it gets hot enough to cycle the fan, should dissolve most of the goo that could be causing the problem. Just a thought.

Recovering H-D owner...W-650 Cafe' No excuses...Ride it or sell it to someone who will!

pcarrell

+1 on bleeding the clutch out!


Troll

Sounds like you need to start by bleeding the clutch hydraulic system. Use the specified DOT 4 fluid, take your time, and it will all work out.

Recovering H-D owner...W-650 Cafe' No excuses...Ride it or sell it to someone who will!

Squid4life

Thanks for the replies.... Ok this is what i mean...the battery was dead, we gave it a booster and the bike was running ok. As far as the clutch what i mean by dead its that it wouldn't engage ....bike was on but once you apply the clutch and try to put it in first gear the bike would jump on shut off.

I will put some fresh gas and look for a new battery...honestly this bike was an impulse buy. I got it sitting in my garage with No purpose what so ever....Fail.


Troll

I would start by checking fuses. Body shops are usually pretty good places to get paint done, but when it comes to electrics, even just unplugging something..they are terrible. Do you hear the fuel pump run when you turn on the key? Does the FI light come on? This is a pretty simple system, if left stock. People put aftermarket stuff on, usually carelessly, and muck it all up.

Recovering H-D owner...W-650 Cafe' No excuses...Ride it or sell it to someone who will!

49Reo

You mentioned it was at the body shop. If they had the tank off they may not have seated the fuel connector properly, which will definitely cause trouble.

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greenbarn

+1 on the battery.  Mine sat for a couple of months over the winter, and then it would not start either. Crank, but no start.  I could tell the battery was cranking slow - I work on cars, so I'm familiar with this type of stuff- it would turn over fast enough you would think it should start (my 800 would have started) - but the problem is, like PC said, the voltage is too low for the computer to work.  I didn't even mess with mine trying to charge it or measure the voltage, I'm planning on keeping it so I just put a new battery in it.

I'm concerned with some of your terminology - the clutch being dead (not sure what you mean by that) , and it won't turn on, just cranks (the starter shouldn't crank, if no power comes on with the key on).   However, see if this describes your bike:
--key turns on, dash powers up, lights come on etc,
--engage starter and the motor turns over and cranks
--but the bike won't start.

--if it's turning over slow at all (you may not even realize it's "slow" if you haven't had it long"-- Then I would either try a new battery or try jumper cables from a spare 12 volt car battery or a jumper box to see if that does the trick.   If you have a Volt Meter, you could measure the battery voltage - like PC said, this needs good battery voltage for the EMC to work properly - which in turn makes the fuel injection work properly.   Trouble is, I don't know "exactly" what voltage is "OK" and what is "too low" - problem is,  even with a brand new battery the voltage drops (a little) as soon as you start to crank the motor - so a weak battery can still measure 12-13 volts when you measure it but as soon as you start cranking it drops to 9-10 volts.  Still enough to crank the starter, but not enough to run the EMC.

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pcarrell

Just the basics to cover here, but is it getting good fuel?  I mean, it was sitting a while, so fresh fuel might be good.  Some Seafoam in the fuel wouldn't hurt either.  If those injectors got gummed up, the Seafoam would probably help.

Are you getting a strong spark?  You mentioned the battery being dead.  Being a fuel injected bike, it needs a good strong jolt from the battery to get it going.  If memory serves, something like 13 volts minimum.


Squid4life

This is the deal....i bought a 1500 Drifter to ride 2up with the wife(other bike was a zx14). Bike was running great. Send it to the body shop in late november, i went to p/u the bike 2 weeks ago and sure enough the bike was completely dead. Gave it a booster, turned on but the clutch was dead. Now the bike wont even turn on, just crank and thats it.

Its a '99 frame with a '05 engine(9k's). Previous owner did cases and few other things to it. It was supposed to be my 2up bike but now i dont have the desire or time to work with it. I am looking to get some help....chances are i will sell the bike once i am 100% the bike its in good working conditions...

Anybody willing to take a look at the bike lmk. I also have tools and stuff so feel free to pass by and take a look for yourself(11207). Most definetely i could take the bike to you as well.

More info...

Lenny

Lmp2227@gmail.com


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