Help with my stock 800 two up

gcates · October 07, 2013, 17:43:18 PM

Okay guys, thanks for all the help!! alralph was able to make me a set of the brackets I needed and they for great! Special thanks to him!! This is a great site and I look forward to hanging around a long time!

CDNRatMan · September 16, 2013, 18:30:16 PM

I gave the sizes from Ronayers site on my pictures and from my own seat. Going south in 14 for Driftin.....lol....
gcates I used JB weld to hold some spacers for me while I got them bolted up and it worked really well, albeit they did not last forever but long enough to get the bolts in place.

gcates · September 16, 2013, 17:52:35 PM

Ok aralph, it seems I need your brackets and then I can go to a local hardware store and get bolts/nuts and I need to find a way to bond those together. Can you message me your address and how much you'd want for the brackets and I'll get a check in the mail tomorrow.

aralph · September 16, 2013, 17:36:17 PM

And again, why does this seem to happen, another thread going south...lol

Keep in mind your hole is only so big, don't want to put something to big in there. (did that for you Ratman).

gcates the schematic calls for a 6mm bolt,

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Kawasaki/Motorcycle/1999/VN800-C1+Canada+Only/SEAT/parts.html

aralph

greenbarn · September 16, 2013, 15:27:44 PM

Oh, the mental image THAT presents...

CDNRatMan · September 16, 2013, 14:51:33 PM

Yup, because if you look at my seat bottom (think of that one GB) and you see I have nuts (again GB) on the bottom and the bolts are in the seat. Your seat bottom is missing the bolts. So you can do as you please and use what ever size will work for you.

gcates · September 16, 2013, 13:38:11 PM

Ok, I'm sorry. I think I was ASSuming (without looking) that the holes in the frame where the bolts go through we're threaded. And If I understand you guys, you're saying they are not. So I can pick any bolt/nut combination that will fit my holes.

CDNRatMan · September 16, 2013, 12:25:53 PM

gcates, not sure why you are stuck on thread size. If you have the bolts already in the seat then you just need to find the right bolt and vice a versa, if you have neither then you can use what you want to.

chief · September 16, 2013, 11:44:49 AM

Quote from: gcates on September 16, 2013, 10:28:39 AM
I hope aralph understands all of that, cause I'm not sure I do. Is there a way for me to find out the thread size myself so we can go from there?

I don't understand what you are asking. YOU have the bolt so the nut would have to fit.

The brackets are sized for you in the info in the post. It looks like they are different sizes and the holes may be positioned differently I don't have an 800 bracket to compare to the 1500. That is the best way to determine if you can interchange the two.

gcates · September 16, 2013, 10:28:39 AM

I hope aralph understands all of that, cause I'm not sure I do. Is there a way for me to find out the thread size myself so we can go from there?

chief · September 15, 2013, 18:49:56 PM

Quote from: gcates on September 14, 2013, 17:39:49 PM
Thanks chief for the response. aralph, I'm fine giving it a Shot if you are. If I understand chief the bolt doesn't have to be welded so I can get a bolt and some washers and nuts when the brackets get here. Let me know how much money you need and where to send a check and I'll get it to you ASAP.

Let me modify my statement... the nut can be secured by some other method, but it will likely HAVE to be secured to work. You likely can't get to the nut to tighten or loosen with the seat in place.

You might want to epoxy it on if you can't get it tacked - even if the bracket holes line up and are in the right position!

Sorry if I led you astray.

gcates · September 14, 2013, 17:39:49 PM

Thanks chief for the response. aralph, I'm fine giving it a Shot if you are. If I understand chief the bolt doesn't have to be welded so I can get a bolt and some washers and nuts when the brackets get here. Let me know how much money you need and where to send a check and I'll get it to you ASAP.

chief · September 14, 2013, 11:19:53 AM

the welded nut isn't really a problem --- NOTE: I really screwed up that statement - I don't think you can get to the nut to tighten or remove with the seat in place... which makes it a large problem. ---- ... I think the L brackets are a different size between the 1500 and 800...

Look here and compare to the measurements provided by CRM...

Its pretty inexpensive to get these and give it a shot in any event.

gcates · September 13, 2013, 12:46:55 PM

Quote from: aralph on September 12, 2013, 18:24:22 PM
No problem, let me know when you need them.
Shipping is around $10 and 7 to 10 days.
Will need to know if they are the same as the 1500's or needs to be changed to fit.

aralph

That would be great! I don't need them soon because I'll want to get more comfortable before I put anyone on the bike. But if you've got those and could weld the bolt to them I would be beyond greatful. Guess we still need the thread size and to know if the 1500 mounts would fit the 800. Cheif seems like a big help, so I'll try and send him a message.

CDNRatMan · September 12, 2013, 19:25:55 PM

aralph I'll take pictures and measurements of mine for you and gcates so you know how big to make them, I'll also get the head size on them and length of the bolts and such

ok it is today and I went out and got these pics and measurements for you, hope this helps.

aralph · September 12, 2013, 18:24:22 PM

No problem, let me know when you need them.
Shipping is around $10 and 7 to 10 days.
Will need to know if they are the same as the 1500's or needs to be changed to fit.

aralph

DC · September 12, 2013, 11:43:05 AM

Quote from: gcates on September 12, 2013, 07:52:40 AM
. . . . . .cause I'm in North Carolina.

At least you'll be closer to the 2014 Drift-In than most of us.

49Reo · September 12, 2013, 09:27:46 AM

That looks like a pretty good buy for a hundred dollars. Is it a stock seat? Or one that has been recovered?

gcates · September 12, 2013, 08:43:34 AM

Not sure about shipping. I paid $25 from Texas. The seat was actually $200. In the meantime I'll run to Hime Depot and see if I can find anything. Thanks again for everything.

CDNRatMan · September 12, 2013, 08:16:00 AM

I am off this weekend and so will take my seat off and check the thread sizes and get the info to you between showers and thunder storms. Wonder what Shipping would cost to NC for that seat?

Or you could do the ride to there and pick it up and send the old one back via bus....lol....

gcates · September 12, 2013, 07:52:40 AM

Thanks for the link. I suppose I could buy that seat and mount it to my frame, because I really want my wife to have that backrest. But I'd rather find some brackets that might work. I appreciate everyone's help, and if you can figure out the thread size I'd really appreciate that too. But I suppose worse case scenario is drop another $100 plus shipping cause I'm in North Carolina.

aralph, if you could make me a set of those brackets I would be glad to pay you for your work and of course shipping.

CDNRatMan · September 11, 2013, 21:31:04 PM

I have looked everyplace I can think of and can not find any thing about the brackets on the seat. This weekend I can take my seat apart and see what the thread size is because it is not listed on any site I can get the info from and it is not in any of the manuals I have. Really strange.

gcates not sure were you are located but I did find this....

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-motorcycles-motorcycle-parts-accessories-Dual-seat-fringe-W0QQAdIdZ509873504

aralph · September 11, 2013, 19:57:26 PM

Ratman could probably figure that out for you, he's pretty handy and can read English also....
Need to know if the brackets are the same though or what the differences are and I could just alter
my cutting progam to suit.
Chief might know if they are the same.

aralph

gcates · September 11, 2013, 19:48:39 PM

That's what I was thinking. I paid $225 for the seat and the frame. I didn't know the mounts won't be there. Does that seem like a decent deal? How would I go about getting the thread size?

CDNRatMan · September 11, 2013, 19:23:29 PM

gcates seems they sent you most of the seat but not the mounting brackets, and wonder were they got to.

aralph, I would say postal service except you seem to be able to use your hands and read English so you can not be qualified to deliver the mail....lol.....My dad used to live over to University St, from his apartment you could see the Ambassador Bridge really good and watch the trucks going over.