I've been trying to get a stock exhaust system for my Drifter 800 ,but not having much luck .Will a vulcan classic 800 stock exhaust work on a Drifter ?,they are easy to find for under 200 bucks .and I think its the same frame and engine ...The problem I have is the aftermarket pipes on my bike are just to loud for me and my rotating shifts at work .thanks for any info.
The answer is --- yes you can use pipes from an 800 classic, with a right rear footpeg bracket change. (Depending upon the pipes in question, some may sit too close to the either the side cover or the floorboards. They will fit the jugs, but depending upon the diameter of the pipes and the bend there may be problems elsewhere. I don't think there is any way to know without trying them. )
This might help:
http://www.vulcandrifterriders.com/vcross.html (http://www.vulcandrifterriders.com/vcross.html)
Other such links to all sorts of info: http://www.vulcandrifterriders.com/forum/index.php?action=links (http://www.vulcandrifterriders.com/forum/index.php?action=links)
We just changed this around, so its new to everyone!
Cheers.
Thanks for the help ,mine has the solo seat and no rear pegs ,do I still need the classic peg bracket? and I just found a set of classic pipes for 139 ..again thanks for the help .I gave up my bikes ,guns and life yrs ago to raise my daughter ,now its time to ride and shoot straight again
Quote from: Pork33 on September 21, 2014, 20:57:45 PM
Thanks for the help ,mine has the solo seat and no rear pegs ,do I still need the classic peg bracket? and I just found a set of classic pipes for 139 ..again thanks for the help .I gave up my bikes ,guns and life yrs ago to raise my daughter ,now its time to ride and shoot straight again
You don't actually need a footpeg, just the footpeg BRACKET that attaches to the frame. The pipes connect to that. (I don't have an 800 and haven't tried this myself.)
ok thx again
Depending upon the pipes in question, some may sit too close to the either the side cover or the floorboards. They will fit the jugs, but depending upon the diameter of the pipes and the bend there may be problems elsewhere. I don't think there is any way to know without trying them.
Got the pipes and bracket all on e-bay ,nutz and boltz from partzilla and the old pipes are listed on the Philadelphia craigslist . thx again
If possible take some pics and do a write up for us. We can put the write up together...
Will get pics to you soon ...The install went pretty easy .1st I soaked the header bolts everyday for about a week with WD-40 ...Then I did E-bay for the stock vulcan classic pipes ,prices and condition vary greatly ,I paid on the high side 199$ for a like new set .but if you can wait you can get them for around 150$ ,I ordered the nuts and bolts and rubber grommets from partzilla ,I didn't want to hunt around for that stuff ,but the exhaust stay bracket is still in transit ,thats the bracket you need under the passanger footpeg .I put them on without the bracket just to see how they fit and sound ,the fit was perfect ,only slight problem was that you need to remove the rear pipes heat shield in order to install the header nuts ,the front pipe was no problem .I may need to loosen or fudge the pipes around to get that bracket on when it comes.Oh I did forget I got 2 new exhaust gaskets also.
I did want the stock Drifter exhaust ,and I had 2 deals going that just didn't work out .The stock classic pipes are on the quiet side ,but the pipes that were on the bike when I got it were just crazy loud.I think this is a good fix for the hard to find stock Drifter pipes .
And again thanks for your help and info ,when I get permission I will post the e-bay salvage yard I got the pipes from ,and the pictures.
Oh and I just used a 1/4 drive socket wrench with extension and a swivel ,a few metric sockets and an allen wrench for the 2 heat shield bolts .
Hey Pork33, what kind of pipes had your duece before?
Any pics about them?
As someone already told, there are many pics hunters over this Forum... ::)
I'm not sure there was no markings on them that I could find .(//)
Did the Stock 800 Classic pipes have dual mufflers (same side) like the stockers on the Classic 1500 Model? If so, anyone ever try a set of those on their 800 or 1500 Drifter - I'd like to see a picture (always liked the look of those dual shorties).
those might be Vance and Hines longshots, just from the looks.
They look a bit bigger than Longshots. Maybe Cobra? I think they made pipes like that too..
Well Cobra had a set as well as Hard Chrome, and sadly to me they look a lot alike in pictures......but my eyes are getting old.....
I have a set of Hard-Kromes on my 800 and they look just like that... I believe they are the "American Classic" model.
http://www.hardkrome.com/models.php?modelID=26
Ok here are some pics of the vulcan classic pipes on the drifter 800 ......Only problem that I ran into was that the classic pipes would hit the trim rail on the rear fender ,to fix this I shimmed the bottom pipes mounting screws with about 4 or 5 washers and used longer bolts .The bottom pipe will pull the upper pipe over because its attached by the cross-over pipe that connects the 2 .I may also take the top pipe bracket off and put a slight bend in it .
Those look fine to me, and are they loud?
GB those do look really long for some reason.....
No not loud at all ,they are the stock vulcan classic 800 pipes ....The problem I had was I wanted a motorcycle for the past 5 yrs or so ,then I saw a drifter and I hadda have 1 .So I find local a 2004 with 7000 miles on it for 3200$ .Only thing was that it had the after market pipes on it that were louder than s--t ,I guess thats cool for some and I did enjoy it when riding under an overpass and gunning it ,but dogs hated it ,people behind me wanted to get by me to get out of the shock wave ,babies cried ,car alarms went off .It was just to loud and trying to get a stock set of drifter pipes isn't an easy task ,I found 1500 pipes ,but not 800's .So I went with the vulcan classic pipes that are fairly easy to find on e-bay .
Guess some like it loud others not so loud .
Loud pipes on a long ride just make you tired, and the sound, coupled with wind noise will stay with you all night, while you try to sleep. When I say a long ride, you guys know what I mean....
Quote from: Troll on September 30, 2014, 19:58:09 PM
Loud pipes on a long ride just make you tired, and the sound, coupled with wind noise will stay with you all night, while you try to sleep. When I say a long ride, you guys know what I mean....
....not a coffee run....
The pipes look pretty groovy! Thanks for posting the pictures.
Forgive my ignorance regarding 800's but is that a original colour scheme?
Quote from: CDNRatMan on September 30, 2014, 17:50:07 PM
GB those do look really long for some reason.....
They are a little on the long side. They go clear back to the bumperette. They are louder than I would want them for a long trip, but fine on short trips.
I am not a fan of loud pipes either, I once had Hooker headers on a CB 750 Honda, and my first long trip and a beanie helmet.......yup like Troll said no sleep that night. I find my roadhouse pretty tame compared to a lot of the pipes out there now.....
Hey, Pork33 if you're willing to sell your prevoius pipes, I could be interested on buyin'...
Let know something, please.
Thanx.
I'm in Philadelphia ,I think shipping to Italy would be expensive
Pork33: I know I'm a little late to the party, but did you consider baffles that are available to quiet the HardKrome pipes? I'm sure they are around. There is always the smartpartz universal baffle as well.
Your Classic pipes look good too....nice clean mod with stock Kawi parts.
Quote from: Pork33 on October 01, 2014, 21:33:16 PM
I'm in Philadelphia ,I think shipping to Italy would be expensive
I'm not worried about it.
Just let me know what's your price. If you prefer, you can email me at: mittico68@gmail.com
Thanx
I did look into baffles for mine ,but my brother did that with his bike then got a set of stock pipes for his 1100 honda .It did knock the noise down some what ,but it was still louder than he wanted ....So to save some time and money I just went for stock
Pork33: Thanks for the best answer vote, but the whole thing is a catch 22. Everyone wants a little more sound; most who have gutted the stock pipe aren't happy; those that switch to an aftermarket exhaust, usually don't sell the stock exhaust so they can keep their bike complete...etc. So it makes it tough on guys looking for the stock part.
My best luck has been figuring out which guys on e-bay regularly part out Drifters and keep watching their sights, but I'll agree the 800 stock pipe is harder to find.
On the sound...the smartpartz device only lowers the dbs a specified amount. You still need the right baffle in the pipes for the right sound. That's probably the hard thing to find, and yes, strictly looking at $$$, you can get it right, but it costs. I spent some money getting a roadhouse to sound right...it took time and more than I originally thought I'd spend, but it's there now.
Again, good economical solution....and if it gets too quiet for you again, you can look at Classic after market pipes. All the best.
Yea I still have the no-name after market pipes if I wanna go loud again ,and your right about the sound I would like mine about a 3rd louder than stock and deeper if that makes sense ,but not the ear splitting sound of the other pipes .I did enjoy the search for pipes and parts and got to talk with a great drifter rider in Florida that was selling his drifter 800 for a 1500 and he was 76 yrs old .Now I have a Vulcan classic drifter a rare model. Only 1 made in a Philadelphia driveway .Funny thing now is you can hear all the lil bike sounds like the headlite rattle or the plastic side cover rattle and the wind . Will still look for a stock drifter exhaust ,but I think white walls are my next move and for some reason I like the skull hand mirrors that are out ,but I dont want to ruin the look of the bike.
Pork33 if you put stock exhaust on...lol......you would hear your passing of gas because I had mine on for a weekend, and I heard another one at a Ride For Dad, it was running about five ft. away and it was so quiet.....unreal. I am running a "stock" Roadhouse system and am really happy with it, loud enough deep rumble, but not a pain in the butt loud.
Hello,
I belive those after market pipes could be hard chrome . take mirror ,check at front header pipe between bolt flange and heat shield it will be there little hard to locate it will be there.
now for baffles big city thunder will
have them make sure to check if you have hot tips . these baffles will change to a nice rumble . won't set off alarms . These folks make baffles
just about any size after market pipes out there . not hard to install takes a little time but well worth it I have them on my 02 . installed 2009
Ride Safe
Jack
Thx Jack ,the stock classic pipes are very quiet all I hear with helmet on is wind noise ,without helmet I can hear slight rumble .I guess trying to get the right sound for me would be a project .