Any guess as to what wide whitewall tire lasts the longest?
Dougdrifter,that's the easiest question ever posted on the forum ::)I can even answer this one ;).....the one's that never get used :o....to easy,brother..lol...On a seriuos note there's different opinions on this like many other questions of course here on the forum.There's quit a few of us who just upgraded over the off season from the stock black Dunlop to the metzler 880 www's at least that's what was on my Drifter before the switch.So far I put 800 miles on them and don't have any negative reviews at all.
I have the same tires as D1 and today I put abit over 600 kms on them and fantastic, really happy with them and of course they look cool.
i get 6k-8k on my rear me880 and now the 888 is suppost to be alot better
The old fashioned answer is that there are two types of tire..Soft rubber which stick to the road like glue but don't last long, and hard rubber which lasts forever but doesn't hold the road..good tires have to be a compromise between the two..
You only have a limited number of white wall tires in the correct size to choose from so it might be a matter of sacrificing quality for looks..not many riders in Britain use white wall tires and even some of those that do have painted black walls white..
I have heard Michelin are good.
John.
Quote from: John Hopkins on June 22, 2013, 08:09:23 AM
You only have a limited number of white wall tires in the correct size to choose from so it might be a matter of sacrificing quality for looks..not many riders in Britain use white wall tires and even some of those that do have painted black walls white..
John.
That's interesting, John. just out of curiosity, why would they pay more for WWW just to go to all the work to paint them black? Something to occupy their time when it rains?
Did I say that..what I meant was it is difficult to buy WW tires in Britain so some people paint the walls of their black tires white ..
But not many people buy a bike to only ride in dry weather because we have a lot of rain so keeping ww tires clean is a full time job so there is not a very big market for them.
John.
Quote from: John Hopkins on June 22, 2013, 13:49:32 PM
Did I say that..what I meant was it is difficult to buy WW tires in Britain so some people paint the walls of their black tires white ..
But not many people buy a bike to only ride in dry weather because we have a lot of rain so keeping ww tires clean is a full time job so there is not a very big market for them.
John.
I got it this time..... :o must have read it too fast the first time. That makes more sense now.
For WWW tires, Avons are super sticky. They aren't cheap though, and because they are a softer compound (thats what makes them sticky), they tend to wear out a little sooner. Metzler 880's are great, just avoid old brazilian made backstock from a couple of years ago. They had "issues". Those issues seem to be corrected now. (It'll say on the side of the tire where and when it's made.) I have one on the back now and it's plenty sticky and holds up pretty well. The only others I've tried are Continental Milestones. They look great and last FOREVER! (I have 25,000 miles on my front tire and there's still enough tread to maybe make it through the summer. The rear got almost 15,000 miles before it was due for replacement.) It's a harder compound, so it's not as sticky, but the bang for the buck is hard to beat. They also have a bit more sidewall material in them, so load capacity is a little better (if you ever ride 2up or gear up for trips).
It's been a year and about 10,500 miles since I put on the Michelin Commander IIs. The tread depth is 6.5/32 of an inch. At this rate, when the tire is worn to 2/32, I should have about 16,000 more miles. Averaging 4200 miles on 1/32. The front tire has 1/32 off it, for 4/32 tread depth. Best part, besides the mileage/traction/handling...the tread is not getting choppy on the front or the rear!
We are having a ride in bike show on the 25th, so I took the bike apart to get it clean, and it's an excuse to ride the "W" more. Figured I'd take a picture of the tire while it's apart.
This thread is very tiring... ;D
So, to boil it down, Troll, this sounds like you're extremely happy with the Mich's? Or is this overstating it?
BTW, that's some great attire on your bike... (groan)..... :o
I should now re-tire.
oooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I just thought that you guys might be interested in a long term result. I guess I was wrong... :'(
I was fascinated by your results and your words of wisdom......
in my stage whisper:
(GreenBarn you sure like to be mean to the older people)
Just trying to crack a joke (tire humor - I sell tires for a living, don't forget). I knew they were groaners, but didn't mean to offend.
Please don't miss-understand. I am extremely interested. That's why I asked the serious question: Unless I miss-understand, Sounds like you are extremely satisfied with them? I'm going to need a rear tire, prob by the end of the year, or spring, so I AM interested.
Troll, Once again, my apologies for offending. I always appreciate your input.
boy now you are all serious......lol......
tires what kind of deal are you going to give your poor Canadian cousin on tires for my Jimmy?
A great deal.... buy 4 tires, get free valve stems... mounting and balancing INCLUDED!
Seriously, I usually beat "Tire MisCounters" and Wally world
Quote from: greenbarn on August 14, 2013, 22:01:42 PM
A great deal.... buy 4 tires, get free valve stems... mounting and balancing INCLUDED!
Seriously, I usually beat "Tire MisCounters" and Wally world
Thanks, now I have the Tire Discounters jingle and stupid commercials in my head. Back to old folks jokes!
A friend of mine used to sell tires for a living, but he doesn't anymore. He got tired of it.
I very happy with the tires. I was concerned with Michelins to start with since I never found a car tire that they made to worth much, especially in the rain. I stole the picture from Laura McNeely's site, so you could see the kind of precipitation I rode the mountain twistys in that finally convinced me the tires are good in the rain, too!
Lol, now that looks like your having a good time.
Quote from: DC on August 15, 2013, 07:14:37 AM
A friend of mine used to sell tires for a living, but he doesn't anymore. He got tired of it.
He didn't stay long enough to retire.
on my commute to and from work I drive past 3 tire places and always get a charge out of their signs, buy 3 get one free, and the price. Well I want to see the sign that has the say as follows,
buy one tire for (price) and get 3 for free.
and the price is the same for both, wonder which would sell faster or more tires?
Quote from: DC on August 15, 2013, 10:31:29 AM
He didn't stay long enough to retire.
bummer, I wanted to use that one... ;D
Quote from: CDNRatMan on August 15, 2013, 11:03:11 AM
on my commute to and from work I drive past 3 tire places and always get a charge out of their signs, buy 3 get one free, and the price. Well I want to see the sign that has the say as follows,
buy one tire for (price) and get 3 for free.
and the price is the same for both, wonder which would sell faster or more tires?
people fall for that stupid crap all the time.
Quote from: Troll on August 15, 2013, 08:02:18 AM
I very happy with the tires. I was concerned with Michelins to start with since I never found a car tire that they made to worth much, especially in the rain. I stole the picture from Laura McNeely's site, so you could see the kind of precipitation I rode the mountain twistys in that finally convinced me the tires are good in the rain, too!
Sounds like a good plan for my next tire. However, I believe you previously said they don't come in WWW? That would mean buying 2 when I really only need 1, or going with WWW front and BW rear - that sounds hideous....
oh PC I am so bad...but anyway........here goes....
Quotethat sounds hideous
and your riding it does not help......ohhhhhhhhhh
you're a very mean person, Ratman...
Quote from: greenbarn on August 15, 2013, 19:17:41 PM
you're a very mean person, Ratman...
He's just school yard bully.
Quote from: greenbarn on August 15, 2013, 19:09:28 PM
Sounds like a good plan for my next tire. However, I believe you previously said they don't come in WWW? That would mean buying 2 when I really only need 1, or going with WWW front and BW rear - that sounds hideous....
Maybe some Port-A-Walls from J.C. Whitney?
Lol. Do they even still sell those?