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Posted by rob f
 - February 08, 2018, 08:37:45 AM

Sorry for the "primate" thing Pete. Couldn't resist the temptation.
Used that line on  an englishman I worked with about 10 years ago. He called me a "Tosser"
I'm sure that didn't mean "friend".
Of course we were just having us some fun and we still get along fine .

Appreciate the tips on the swing arm and grease fittings.

Rob ( the "Tosser") F.

Posted by Pete
 - February 08, 2018, 04:02:29 AM
Quote from: Tfrank59 on February 07, 2018, 10:57:09 AM

So if you make friends is it "mating"?

Oooook!
Posted by Tfrank59
 - February 07, 2018, 10:57:09 AM

So if you make friends is it "mating"?

Posted by Pete
 - February 07, 2018, 08:54:07 AM
Quote from: rob f on February 06, 2018, 18:39:42 PM

Oh and bye the bye.. If your friends are "mates", then is your best friend a "Primate"?
Just wonderin'
Rob

Oook.
Posted by rob f
 - February 06, 2018, 18:39:42 PM

  Makes sense now that you pointed it out about spacing to compensate for the sprocket and drive chain.
Similar repair on the zerks. Took out the uni trac then the bushings,retaped the messed up threads and put in allen head set screws to flush. Good tip on the teflon tape as I think that you are right on the straight not tapered threads.
Not sure what a top-hat bush is. Must be foreigner talk.
Oh and bye the bye.. If your friends are "mates", then is your best friend a "Primate"?
Just wonderin'
Rob

Posted by Pete
 - February 06, 2018, 11:17:13 AM

The broken grease-nipple problem (that's zerks to you chaps):
Find a mate with a lathe. Get him to bore out the holes and make press fit top-hat bushes and loctite them in. The grease-nipple thread is M6, and it's a bit difficult to tell, but they look like a parallel thread to me, although I could be wrong.
When your mate-with-a-lathe makes the top-hat bushes get him to tap them M6 thru,  but to relieve the first two threads.

I only fit the grease-nipples when I'm doing the greasing, otherwise I fit button-head Allen-bolts to blank off the holes. (I fit them using PTFE plumbers' tape which helps prevent corrosion and acts as a thread locking device).

Posted by Pete
 - February 06, 2018, 10:59:19 AM

Yup.
Using the tyre walls to gauge from (it's snowing here and too damn cold in my garage to roll about on a concrete floor with a rule in my hand):
The rear tyre wall is close to the swinging-arm right-hand leg.
The gap between the rear tyre left-hand wall and the left-hand leg of the swinging-arm is much greater - because it has to accommodate the width of the chain plus a clearance either side.
Moral: If your swinging arm is symmetrical with the frame - it's broken!

Posted by Pete
 - February 06, 2018, 10:39:12 AM

If you think about it there is no reason for the swinging-arm to be symmetrical. The swinging-arm pivot must be perpendicular to the bike's long axis and the rear wheel must align with the front wheel, but other than that there is no constraint on symmetry.
The rear wheel has the sprocket & chain and the cush-drive arrangements on the left, but only the brake-disc on the right, so from my armchair I would expect to see the left-hand leg of the swinging-arm kick out more then the right-hand leg.
I'm now going to pop out to the garage and see if that's right.

Posted by rob f
 - February 04, 2018, 08:32:21 AM

 Thought the same thing myself, about that bolt gouging into the frame. Unlike us ( mechanics machinists, equipment operators) , some people do not have a clue about how things work or even care. I suppose we were all clueless to start with but there is something called "common sense" that should be inherent to all.
R

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - February 03, 2018, 21:00:37 PM

 :o  Rob had a bit of time today and so was sitting and looking at the bike and was thinking about your gouge........I am wondering how the PO did not hear or feel it.........I know my bike and when I have issues I can feel it or hear it. When I had the issue with my chain I first felt it in the floorboards and then after it got worse I could hear it on shifting........something digging into the frame should have been felt right off the bat......

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - February 03, 2018, 13:30:27 PM

  Rob understand your issues and so here to make you feel better, 42 years in the CF as a Heavy Equipment Operator by trade, but then the last 22 as a Sr NCO doing desk jobs, no formal mechanical training, none whatsoever, learned it from watching and helping veh techs, and youtube. So bought my Drifter and with this forum and my buddies GreenBarn, Troll and 49 Reo I tried everything. The first winter I tore Red down and put her back....well that first ride I was waiting for something to fall off....lol.......
I have ridden my bike from Winnipeg to North Bay along Hwy #1 and #11 so both parts of the Trans Canada at the legal speed and somewhat over that limit and with the 18/38 sprocket swap I can run at 130km all day and never have a hiccup.....this machine is fantastic at what the 800 can do......

Glad I can be of service to all of you and gald the pictures helped.

Posted by Tfrank59
 - February 03, 2018, 11:03:39 AM
Quote from: rob f on February 03, 2018, 10:23:24 AM

Thanks RM & VP. Pics are great and RM hope that you didn't strain your milk on trying to get the measurements for me. Owe you guys beers next time you roll by.
Now I know that my bike is "normal" I can get that rear end all back together. Was worried about drive alignment and tire dog tracking and so forth.
Always fretting about mechanical issues is my Mechanic's curse. There has been many a time that I slacked off on the throttle on a nice stretch just because the little man in my head was thinking.... is the master chain link clip ok,are the tire beads holding, are the brake pads going to bind and lock up the wheel.? And have you seen the size of those tiny wheel bearings? About the same size as the front bearing of a Delco alternator.
Takes all the fun outta riding.
Should see me when i'm sitting in a plane :o

Well I'm a machinist but you just got to learn to relax and go with it bud. You can have you know seismic activity and the ground might open up in front of you and swallow you alive but you know what you going to do? Just take whatever comes at you. And prayer helps haha

Posted by Vulcanpunch
 - February 03, 2018, 10:49:56 AM
Quote from: rob f on February 03, 2018, 10:23:24 AM

Should see me when i'm sitting in a plane :o

Hahaha as an airplane mechanic I can relate. :P

Posted by rob f
 - February 03, 2018, 10:23:24 AM

Thanks RM & VP. Pics are great and RM hope that you didn't strain your milk on trying to get the measurements for me. Owe you guys beers next time you roll by.
Now I know that my bike is "normal" I can get that rear end all back together. Was worried about drive alignment and tire dog tracking and so forth.
Always fretting about mechanical issues is my Mechanic's curse. There has been many a time that I slacked off on the throttle on a nice stretch just because the little man in my head was thinking.... is the master chain link clip ok,are the tire beads holding, are the brake pads going to bind and lock up the wheel.? And have you seen the size of those tiny wheel bearings? About the same size as the front bearing of a Delco alternator.
Takes all the fun outta riding.
Should see me when i'm sitting in a plane :o

Posted by Vulcanpunch
 - February 02, 2018, 22:13:58 PM

Awesome pictures Ratman. Thanks to you I was able to dry fit my swing arm and take measurements on mine to try and compare if this in fact normal and not a mis alignment on Rob's bike.(Disclaimer, mine is a normal 800 frame with a Drifter swing arm) The measurements on the left are smaller then the right. I think you are fine Rob. :D

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