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Posted by CDNRatMan
 - December 10, 2014, 15:30:59 PM

  Ok John we had a local constable charged last year for DUI, at the time of his arrest he refused to give a breath sample, he was asked 5 times to provide a sample before they said they would charge him for failing to provide, at which time he provided, now this was some 5 hours later. Due to this and some other issues that they claim tainted his arrest, he did lose his license to drive for a year, and was placed on administrative duties for a year till he got his license back, at full normal pay.
Ok yesterday it was announced that said officer was being charged for DUI a second time from being followed by the OPP and charged by them and once more he went through the refusing to provide a sample of breath.
If that was a normal person, they would have been fired and charged within minutes for refusing to provide.

Posted by John Hopkins
 - December 10, 2014, 13:49:54 PM

I'm outside of this one but I would like to ask a question..

With any large Police force, do you think that when corruption or stupid policing is uncovered at any level that the instigators should be removed from their posts immediately without pay as being unable to do the job they were employed to do..or do you think it is ok to spend a lot of public money on a showcase trial with a highly paid lawyer trying to either put a gloss on it or sweep it under the carpet..

Before you answer bear in mind that if you worked in a factory and you could not do your job you would be fired..

John.

Posted by 49Reo
 - December 10, 2014, 13:39:40 PM

I agree, Chief. There are a LOT more good cops vs bad cops; we do hear more about the "bad cops" more, because that sells news. That being said, those in charge of the confiscation in High River knew they were doing the wrong thing; otherwise they would not have sent ALL the RCMP stationed in High River to different areas before they started "doing the right thing." And telling a homeowner the reason they kicked down interior passage doors that don't even lock "because nothing feels as good as kicking down a door" is clearly abusing their power. THAT being said, why are the RCMP (rhetorical question here) stonewalling the investigation in to these allegations? Only they can answer that question. As a responsible forearms owner, it is discouraging to hear of people doing the right thing and being penalized for it.

{Sigh} and I do rant on....lol

And all this being said, I am not "running down" the RCMP as a whole; just those who perpetrated these injustices on people who had already lost enough. Just to clarify......

Posted by chief
 - December 10, 2014, 12:07:25 PM

Not to go too far afield... I come from an LEO family, did some of that work myself. My Dad was a Chief of Police, after I left for the Navy. Most cops do a good job, but there are some who don't. I've run into my share of both kinds.  When you deal with the worst of society everyday of your working life, you can easily get into a mindset where you think everyone is the same. That can lead to abuses. The real danger is when cops stop thinking of themselves as part of the community. Once we did away with "beat" cops, we started losing that sense of community. The US vs THEM mentality sets in... on both sides.

Honestly, knowing what I know about police forces of the 60's and 70's, I'd say they have gotten much, much, better as a whole over the years. Now that we have 24/7 news cycles we here all the dirt, all the time. Good news is rarely considered "news".
During Katrina the NG was actually confiscating firearms from people in and around NO. They thought they were doing the right thing... their officers and NO officials should have known better.
Such abuses and failures are still the exception rather than the rule. We don't want to fail into the trap of stereotyping everyone based upon the few.
Posted by greenbarn
 - December 09, 2014, 21:07:04 PM

I believe the announcer called is a "stunning abuse of power"....    Sounds like this abuse of power is on the rise these days.  Is bad law enforcement on the rise these days, or do we just hear more about it because of increased social media?   Seems to me it's on the rise everywhere. 

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - December 09, 2014, 18:36:15 PM

    :( I did follow that quiet close and it was not really impressive.......

Posted by 49Reo
 - December 09, 2014, 15:20:14 PM

This is a long (43 minute) video, but definitely worth watching. This took place in 2013 during the floods.

After watching this what country and what group did it remind you of?   :'(

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/specialreports/archives/2014/12/20141208-145358.html

Regards,

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