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Posted by Washbrook
- June 27, 2013, 18:35:22 PMnhtrikes: No offence taken by me, you are spot on in many respects, political correctness and the government trying to "bubble wrap" everyone for their own protection is becoming the norm rather that the exception here in Australia, even more than in the USA [I lived in Colorado form 2001 - 2006 so saw a lot of how your system works]. Though I have to state that the people in Australia are the greatest but that's a whole different discussion 
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Posted by Troll
- June 27, 2013, 17:37:59 PMDon't apologise....you got it right. The important thing is that the law was overturned by the adults in the room. Bloomberg calls himself an independent, and he is...independent of all common sense. New York is home, I just live in Wisconsin.
Posted by nhtrikes
- June 27, 2013, 16:40:42 PMJust re-read my rant. Humblest apologies if I offended anyone, especially anyone here from NY. That was not my intention at all. Just an old NH 'yank' shootin' off his mouth, going deaf and a few misplaced marbles to boot. If I could have, I would have removed the post after I calmed down. Next time I will take a walk, do some deep breathing exercises and count to ten before I start typing! My wife has been telling me I'm turning into an old grump, don't tell her but I think she may be right. 
Seriously, for anyone who may have been offended by my comments, please accept my deepest apologies . . .
Posted by nhtrikes
- June 27, 2013, 15:00:18 PMThe problem with common sense is it not very common anymore, and because of that the government has taken upon itself to pass laws that are suppose to protect people from themselves. Comes at a huge price, freedom. The other problem is the number of self-sufficient people with common sense are now a minority in this country, and the ones that depend on the government for their personal welfare are the majority that is why these laws that take away freedoms are passed and accepted by the majority of the public. We are loosing this battle here in NH as well. Still no helmet law here but it's a matter of time. Still can't believe New York makes it unlawful to sell/buy a 20 oz. soda, God knows I would never, but hell, if I want one . . . and people just accept it!!!! Sorry, my blood boils when I see what's happening to this country. The people in this country are still the greatest, that's what makes us, defines us. Not our government! Thanks for letting me rant This string just struck a nerve. I'll step off my soapbox now . . .
Posted by Troll
- June 27, 2013, 13:33:40 PMPersonal responsibility is a lot like common sense...those who will, do..those who won't....hmmm what should I say here? You know what I mean, so I'll leave it to your imagination.
Posted by chief
- June 27, 2013, 12:03:25 PMWell, I've been in the safety business for a good chunk of time. There are things that MUST be mandated to force your employer, the government, or whomever to provide for a safe living environment. Then there are things you should do to protect yourself. The problem is, the government has encroached into that latter area way too far, IMHO. AND, people ASSUME a lot about the effectiveness of PPE's... personal protective equipment.
A law is not a suitable substitute for personal responsibility IMHO.
Posted by John Hopkins
- June 27, 2013, 10:06:27 AMQuote from: Troll on June 27, 2013, 09:38:38 AMThis is the way it should be..an old chestnut the helmet law..Freedom is what you make of it. As long as we have the freedom to make our own decisions, no matter how bad, we are still free.
It is a good sensible law but if we have a choice most of us would not wear a helmet when test riding a motorcycle so that we could hear the engine and any faults before buying..as it stands the police use many of these laws as a way or raising money..
John.
Posted by Troll
- June 27, 2013, 09:38:38 AMFreedom is what you make of it. As long as we have the freedom to make our own decisions, no matter how bad, we are still free. You can't legislate intelligence...if you could, there would be intelligent legislators....
Posted by Washbrook
- June 27, 2013, 08:22:47 AMThere has to be some people willing to be organ donors.
If they do not respect themselves enough to wear the gear they take the risk, I for one value my life too much to go undressed.
Posted by DC
- June 27, 2013, 07:20:47 AMI can't see riding without the proper gear, but I see that many peeps do.
BTW, I just got my summer jacket (in hi-viz). Fits great. I'll take it for a ride on the weekend. I also ordered the CE back armor plate.
http://www.revzilla.com/product/icon-anthem-mil-spec-mesh-jacket
Posted by waltervl
- June 27, 2013, 03:20:10 AMIn Europe, in some countries you will get a fine if you don't wear proper motorcycling gear. A helmet allways has to be worn.
I fell one time without wearing a motorcycle pants, and I will not do that again (both falling and not wearing proper pants).
Posted by greenbarn
- June 26, 2013, 21:03:04 PMDid I say that?? Well, should take care of the rodent problem in the barn. 
Posted by CDNRatMan
- June 26, 2013, 19:05:53 PMYes Troll, we had the same poster.........
for my riding I always wear gloves, eye protection, temp and weather decide on long pants/chaps,T shirt/coat/raingear, now my arthritis dictate's footwear, normally boots on all rides, unless I have a bad swelling then sneakers.
Greenbarn you said you want a picture of me in my bikini riding my bike......I'll pm that to you.
Posted by Pilgrim
- June 26, 2013, 17:51:04 PMI see this all the time. I never ride in shorts but I am guilty of riding with a t-shirt.
Not that my legs are more important than my arms...
Posted by greenbarn
- June 26, 2013, 17:04:03 PMSee, Ratman, you're not understanding one thing: These are the guys who leave home SURE THEY WON'T BE INVOLVED IN A WRECK. 
See, if you were just as sure as THEY were, you could ride half dressed TOO. (don't take that as an invitation for more pictures...) 
What gets me the most is the guys who haul their girl around half dressed..... not much respect for their girl, I guess....