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Posted by greenbarn
- June 08, 2013, 23:28:59 PMQuote from: Anti-hero on June 08, 2013, 17:47:39 PMYea I think thats what it is... But I tried disconnecting the switch at the harness and jumping it but the neutral light won't cOme on... It does start with the clutch pulled in but still won't take off in gear...
If I understand you correctly... Jumping the harness won't make the neutral light come on.
IF the kickstand switch is bad, it cold act like the kickstand is down - even if it is up - and it will kill the ignition as soon as you start to release the clutch.
If you jump across the kickstand plug, defeating the switch, then it will act like the kickstand is UP - as long as the jumper is in place - and it should allow you to release the clutch and not kill it. If it does, this effectively shows the switch is bad.
Posted by chief
- June 08, 2013, 18:41:34 PMThe sidestand switch current active P/N is 27010-1464... it costs about $40. at Ronayers.com...
Its the same switch used on some classics and nomads.
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Posted by Anti-hero
- June 08, 2013, 17:47:39 PMYea I think thats what it is... But I tried disconnecting the switch at the harness and jumping it but the neutral light won't cOme on... It does start with the clutch pulled in but still won't take off in gear...
Posted by greenbarn
- June 08, 2013, 15:29:46 PMFrom what I'm hearing I can't think of anything other than kickstand switch
In other words, it SOUNDS like even with the kickstand UP it does EXACTLY what it is supposed to do when the stand is DOWN.
Posted by chief
- June 08, 2013, 15:08:03 PMQuote from: Anti-hero on June 08, 2013, 14:46:43 PMWith or without the clutch lever depressed? With the clutch depressed it SHOULD start whether or not the stand is down, and whether or not the bike is in gear.With kickstand up or down its starts even in gear...
The stand switch is designed to prevent you from moving with the stand down. If the switch is bad the bike thinks the stand is down even when it isn't so it shuts down the bike immediately once the clutch is released.
Posted by chief
- June 08, 2013, 15:06:27 PMQuote from: Anti-hero on June 08, 2013, 14:36:18 PMIt stalls once I let out the clutch... It idles fine in neutral and it idles once in gear with the clutch pulled in... Once I let out(even with a little throttle) it shuts off...
Ok... here's what I am hearing...
1) Idles fine in neutral with kickstand down and clutch NOT depressed.
2) Idles fine in neutral with kickstand UP and clutch NOT depressed.
3) Idles fine in GEAR with kickstand up and clutch depressed.
4) Stalls in gear with kickstand up upon release of clutch. (If kickstand is down and clutch is released the bike will shut down.)
- Start the bike, leave the kickstand down, depress the clutch, shift into first... slowly release the clutch. Does the bike shut down? It should... if it doesn't there is a problem with the kickstand switch.
- In #4 above does it shut down immediately or start to move when you slowly release the clutch then stall?
- Any change when you give it more throttle while releasing the clutch?
If it shuts down immediately upon slowly releasing the clutch with the bike in gear regardless of throttle position... that points to the kickstand switch.
Posted by Anti-hero
- June 08, 2013, 14:46:43 PMWith kickstand up or down its starts even in gear...
Posted by Anti-hero
- June 08, 2013, 14:36:18 PMIt stalls once I let out the clutch... It idles fine in neutral and it idles once in gear with the clutch pulled in... Once I let out(even with a little throttle) it shuts off...
Posted by chief
- June 08, 2013, 13:56:38 PMStart again and explain exactly what is happening.
Sit on the bike. Depress the clutch and start the bike. Ensure its in neutral and release the clutch... does it continue to run?
Assuming it does... lift the kickstand, depress the clutch, put the bike in gear... what happens?
Posted by waltervl
- June 08, 2013, 08:22:32 AMThere is also a clutch switch and a neutral switch. Search on the forum to get more information or wait untill a more experienced member helps you with the details. The clutch switch is near the clutch lever at lest. So you could clean the connections and check it.
Posted by Anti-hero
- June 08, 2013, 01:41:52 AMSo I tried jumping the switch harness with a u joint pin type wire and the bike turned on but didn't read that it was in neutral and it still stalled... 
Could be something else? Is there a clutch switch? I'm still going to look into the sidestand switch. Bit more but so far I've tried the jumping technique and nada... :/
Posted by Troll
- June 05, 2013, 18:30:05 PMUnder the left side chrome cover (if you have one), is a bunch of connectors. Here is a diagram that will help you find the side stand wiring harness. It's a 2 wire plug #55 on the diagram. I labeled a couple of other land marks.
Posted by greenbarn
- June 05, 2013, 15:33:12 PMQuote from: Anti-hero on June 05, 2013, 15:27:21 PMDo u mean the switch by the battery? I think that's where the cable leads to...
I believe he's speaking of the kick-stand switch. Should be on the frame by the kickstand. Unplug the switch. Install a jumper wire (u-shaped hair-pin type piece of wire) to connect the wires on the plug end coming from the bike wiring harness (NOT the connection on the switch itself). Try to start.
If that works, the switch is bad.
This is assuming it's a normally-open switch (i.e. switch is "open" with kickstand down, and closes, making the connection, when the kickstand is put up). It's unlikely it's normally-closed (EG opposite of normally open)
Posted by Anti-hero
- June 05, 2013, 15:27:21 PMDo u mean the switch by the battery? I think that's where the cable leads to...
Posted by Troll
- June 05, 2013, 08:01:01 AMThe switch side and the harness side of the connector. Jumping the wires on the harness side will bypass the switch, jumping the wires on the switch side will do nothing.