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Posted by 45 Bravo
 - January 04, 2013, 22:13:01 PM

Thank you Chili. I will keep it in mind

I am here deciphering the schematic Troll attached.

I am going to try this tomorrow. (if it gets warm enough so i don't have to thaw my fingers every few minutes over a heater)

Oh to be like Ratman and have the bike in the living room.

Ian

Posted by ChilliDrift
 - January 04, 2013, 21:54:33 PM
Quote from: 45 Bravo on January 04, 2013, 17:31:11 PM

Thats quite an offer Chili, but if it is your primary, i don't want to take you off line from riding while it is in transit both ways.

I found one on ebay for $150, (but it was just listed yesterday and has 5 days left hopefully no one bids too high)

I would prefer to try someones spare.

Ian

Haven't rode in couple of weeks. But your welcome to it if needed.
Posted by Troll
 - January 04, 2013, 19:09:56 PM

Don't worry, for now, that the efi light won't flash codes, that's actually a good thing. You are going to have to measure some voltages. take off the speedo cover and find the fuel pump connector. Should be 4 wires...blk/w and rd/w....measure across them by back probing the connectors with a sewing needle inserted in the connector between the insulation and the seal. Turn on the key, and you should get 12.5V or more, for 3 seconds, then 0V. If the voltage is correct then the ecm and relay are doing their job. If the voltage is not correct, disconnect the plug and measure the voltage at key on on the red wire and ground your meter to the engine. should be 12.5V. If the voltage is correct now, then the pump is open or the ground circuit to the computer is incomplete. Look at this diagram and follow the circuit...

Posted by pcarrell
 - January 04, 2013, 18:17:26 PM

Those ECU's are strange beasts.  When mine started to go the horn came on and wouldn't shut off.

Posted by 45 Bravo
 - January 04, 2013, 17:31:11 PM

Thats quite an offer Chili, but if it is your primary, i don't want to take you off line from riding while it is in transit both ways.

I found one on ebay for $150, (but it was just listed yesterday and has 5 days left hopefully no one bids too high)

I would prefer to try someones spare.

Ian

Posted by ChilliDrift
 - January 04, 2013, 17:03:48 PM

I'll send you mine 45.

Posted by 45 Bravo
 - January 04, 2013, 16:53:43 PM

I again followed the procedure listed here http://www.vulcandrifterriders.com/ECUFaultCodes.html
as suggested by Chief.

It still shows the same as before, instead of the FI light flashing the codes when i turn the key on after jumpering the pin, the FI light just stays on.

So, That is where i am at, The bike is my only means of transportation, but as my wife had surgery, then me(a week ago) it hasn't been an issue, but it will be shortly when i return to work.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

thanks.

45 Bravo

Posted by 45 Bravo
 - January 04, 2013, 15:50:28 PM

And the Fight continues,
Ding Ding, Round 2.

I got the new key switch in today, put it in, same problem.
same lights..

I can say this, If i put my ear to the tank when i turn on the key, i can hear a electric motor running faintly, it is making a sound like it is turning over maybe 10 revs per second ( read that as i can hear something going dut, dut, dut, about 10 times a second,, and only very faintly.
not the normal buzz sound you can hear while seated on the bike.

Any ideas?

in talking to the kawasaki dealer in the next larger town, he thinks the ECU is going out, and the noise i am hearing is the pump trying to turn over but being supplied with extremely low voltage from the ecu.

He suggest i bring it there and let them put it on their diagnostic machine. ($70)
Even he admits it will sometimes show what is up, and sometimes it won't.

Due to the timing, cams and such according to him, the replacement ecu will have to be from a drifter, the other Fi bikes wont work.

Anyone here have any suggestions?

Anyone got an extra ECU they would loan me long enough to check it out?
I will pay all shipping & fees.

45 Bravo

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - December 20, 2012, 20:53:20 PM

 ;D  ok your back on my lottery list again.......

Posted by 45 Bravo
 - December 20, 2012, 19:49:14 PM

I would never call your house the rat shack. A Drifter lives there!

As a ham radio operator, we have our radio/work room the "ham shack", when radio shack trade marked the shack name, they forced autoshack to change their name to autozone. And tried to sue over the ham shack name..

I try to do as little trade with them as possible..

But I would never call your abode a shack...

45 Bravo

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - December 20, 2012, 17:26:13 PM

  I never sold you nothing so leave me out of this problem......

Posted by 45 Bravo
 - December 20, 2012, 15:21:47 PM

I ordered the key switch today, will take a week to come in.
I jumpered the pin 37, but when i turned on the switch, all the lights came on again and stayed on, no flashing from the FI light (and i waited for a minute with the ignition on. )
I bought a new resistor today from rat shack, (100 ohms, 2watts) $1.29 for 2 of them, and will play with the old switch after i get in the new one.  Maybe there is a emergency fix there.

Thanks guys, I will keep you posted.

ian

Posted by chief
 - December 20, 2012, 13:53:48 PM

You misread the instructions.

The ECU instructions tell you if during the light check the FI light doesn't come on you have a lighting circuit problem. It also says if the FI light comes on while the bike is running you have a DFI SYSTEM problem.  Once you jumper appropriately as long as that FI light comes on after a reset you have a fault code in there. There may be more than one.
Evidence points to an ignition switch problem. I'd replace that, but some folks prefer to eliminate all other possibilities before replacing parts.
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Posted by Troll
 - December 20, 2012, 09:37:21 AM

I'm sending you all bills..... ;D
Seriously... Diagnostics  as well as repair is what I did for my working life..keeps your brain working. Armed with books, and 40+ years of experience, I'll help where I can, or at least try.

Posted by ChilliDrift
 - December 19, 2012, 20:14:17 PM

If sooo, you need to be one the receiving end of the donations pool. And that's cool.

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