2001 oem solo seat fit on a 1999 ?

[Troll]

Ya gotta love eBay...I bought the Cobra pipe for my drifter for about $185, shipped, still in the 1999 newspaper from the factory, and sold the used V&H longshots for $185....sometimes it's not winning, but staying even that's a reason to celebrate.

[lumper]

So I sold the Nomad seat in 12 hours.
All told the brackets cost me $4.00, lol Woot!!
Cant do much better than that.

Thansk again with all the info that helped me find and install the seat brackets I needed.
Lump

[lumper]

UPDATE!!

I fixed it.
All I had to do was buy a seat off a 2001 Kawasaki VN1500L Vulcan Nomad that had the brackets.

I got away cheap as I found a seat that someone turned me onto for $29.00 plus shipping, cost me $44.00 all told.
The brackets worked perfectly so for me the saga is over.

Now I just have to sell this seat, it doesnt quite fit my bike and I dont need it.
I will list it for $20.00 and try to get most of my money back so in the end it oughta cost me less than 10$ if I can sell this seat that is.

I was thinking if it was a fit I would keep it and have a spare to mess with for covering in a matching leather to the bags I am going to get.
But as I said it doesnt fit and the brackets dont line up with that seat, but when I put them on mine, lined right up and luckily I had a couple wingnut screws that were the right thread and just screwed them on.

So if anyone is stuck for these brackets, it isnt the most economical way to go about it but at least there is a way.

Thanks very much for all the help, I really appreciate it.
Lump

[chief]

In fairness, the fit problem was likely because of the corbin seat. Those rails are for oem seats. I have never seen one that would fit a true corbin and the oem both.

Kawasaki had the stock seat, an aftermarket seat which was a Kaw pan covered by corbin... and there us the true corbin. It doesn't' fit the corbin, apparently.

But customer service may be more of an issue.

[lumper]

well thats why I mentioned it to see if he had been around or if you guys had known about him.

Thats scary, yeah he told me on the phone he sold one to a guy in Paris who sent him the pic of the bar on his drifter which is the pic he uses for the drifter seat rail ad, then he said that he had gone to someones place tho take measurements for the 1500 and had 10 made.

Anyway thats funny, well I wont worry about him popping up here then if he has already established himself as a problem or scammer then.
I talked to him on the phone he was very confident adn said these were made specificaly for the drifter 1500, if I hear from him agin I will ask him abotu this Yamaha stuff and the issues these others had.
Lump

[marshalldoll]

I think you had better read this thread on the rails this fellow sells which was on this forum.
http://www.vulcandrifterriders.com/forum/index.php?topic=1448.0

[lumper]

Well I bought that seat on eBay for the brackets.
As long as they fit and it looks like they will that will br great.
I will sell the seat whihc loosk beat for $15.00 or something later.
I guess if someone is going to have one covered anyway that would be a good way to go.
Anyway hopefully this will solve my problem and I can bolt the seat on, I will let you kow when it comes.

Also the solo seat I bought came off of a 2001 Drifter it was an oem seat for 01 from what I was told, so although my bike is a 99 the seat is an 01, and the brackets are going to be off a 2001 vulcan.

Thanks again for all the help and thanks for the link and for turning me onto the fact that these brackets are either the same or close enough to maybe be able to use on the drifter I hadnt though of that.
Lump

[griz01]

Only the 99 & 00 had the rubber bumpers, 01 and up do not have them, if you look really close, I think I see the bolts are there it is just the angle that the picture is taken at has them block from view. The classic seat I got off ebay, the brackets worked fine. My fuzzy brain is telling me that I read somewhere that all 1500 Vulcans have the same brackets; but I sure can not locate that note now.

[lumper]

by the way there is a guy with 10 chrome seat rails available for the solo seat for the drifer on eBay
$220.00 shipped if anyone is still looking for these.

I just spoke to him and if you do it off ebay and dont use paypal he can offer them for even less.
He has them for the 800 and 1500 and he is going to poweder coat one for me black to see how that works.
I Am going to look closer to see the design of it and if it is like the ones I have seen in the past, I think it was MArshall that had one, I really like that design so I wonder if his are like that and if not can they be made that way, he took the measurements off the 1500 since he only had 800's available to him and had some made, so I assume he can alter the design to other specs if necessary.
He gave me a great price on one though powder coated if I want it shipped, I told him he might want to join the boards here as he rides and has parts like fender tips and seat rails he has been selling for a while, maybe a nice addition to things if he has some hard to find parts available at good prices.

Lump

[lumper]

Ah, see I had been wondering if that would work, to get the vulcan 1500 seat to steal the brackets.
I am definitely going to think about buying that seat in the link, steal off the brackets and re list the set for $25.00

If that will work that is the answer fo me I think.
Thanks for the info.

I assume that those brackets attach on the seat where the two screws protrude the bottom on each side?
Its the only place they could possibly attach on the seat I have anyway that I can see.
Lump

[ramakins]

Its been a while since I removed my 2001 solo seat off my drifter, but looking @ lumpers photo of his basepan, I do not even see the recessed where the side brackets should be mounted, nor the rubber bumpers or the holes to recieve them. Mabey I am missing something, or mabey it is not a drifter basepan?

[griz01]

I had the same problem with my 99. only the little bolt at the rear, no brackets. Ended up finding a cheap seat on ebay. if you can wait ebay might be an option. I paid $10 for a classic seat with the brackets! Right now this is the least expensive one I see there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawasaki-Vulcan-VN1500-1500-DRIVER-SEAT-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c5b56f14dQQitemZ190510985549QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[chief]

The brackets are depicted on both seats. They are on the seat pics dashed lines... no part numbers and not listed. The ones off a classic will work.. but they also have no PN.

My corbin required the same brackets.

[lumper]

By the way the bike looks great with the solo seat on and it is pretty comfy.
So the seat except for the brackets fits perfectly.
That larger 2-up though was more comfortable I think, I just dont care for the look of them.
Anyway forgot to mention through all this, that the end result is the seat did fit and I didnt lose out on that which was my concern in the first place.
Lump

[lumper]

see I dont see the L brackets in the 2 up diagram either, lol maybe I am missing it though, most likely.
But the 2up was only connected by one threaded rod that runs out of the bottom of the rear of the seat and that bolts to the black arm that you need for the two up.

Besides that one rear screw it was only on the tank washer, there were no side brackets at all.

So who knows lol maybe the guy who put this on just didnt use the brackets since the seat was so secure with only the rear screw and gas tank washer holding it.

That figures and would explain why there arent any with the bike, when I bougth the seat I knew it did not have any hardware but I didnt have access to the bike to pop off the seat and see what i was dealing with.
When Chief told me what to look for he had no way of knowing that the bike didnt have the brackets where they should be.

Anyway, so I went to a kawasaki dealer today and on Monday they are going to look at wether or not I can buy the similiar brackets for a vulcan 1500 classic or other similiar model and see if it doesnt work can it be slightly modified to work?

I also asked Corbin about it since they still sell seats that come with the brackets according to their site.
If they have brackets on their seats it would stand to reason that you shuold be able to buy the brackets.
I am sure though this will dead end or you guys would already have figured that out, lol

I know i saw someone selling them a month ago when I was browsing around.

So I get it and see why I dont have any brackets, now I need to find some.

I did talk to the guy who bought my 2-up, he should have these brackets on his bike now as he has the solo installed.
Tuesday when he can ge to his bike he is going to look and if so he is going to work out something for me either I am going to buy them or we might work out a trade for something else.
I will let you know.
in the meantime I will rig something up so I dont come out of a store to find my seat gone.

Thanks for all the help,

Lump

[chief]

Yeah, I believe a see a single hole on each side up under the leather... can't tell for sure at this angle.

At first I thought it was a seat for another model... I can't trace the 130828 number but the 1942 is part of the 2001 PN for the superseded seat... 53001-1942-MA, with the current PN being 53001-1991-MA.

[Troll]

  Something isn't making any sense here....There seem to be no studs for mounting the seat brackets...Makes you wonder how it was attached. I found a picture on ebay of a stock vulcan seat (same seat pan) with the brackets installed. I see Chief beat me to the punch. I'll post it anyway. The bosses are supposed to be drilled with 2 studs coming through the plastic seat pan on each side. They are 6x1.25 mm by about 12 mm long. I would suspect that the studs are welded to a flat plate inserted through the seat pan before the foam and cover are attached. The seat cover comes off pretty easily, as it is stapled on, but you need a heavy duty stapler to put it back. I replaced the cover on mine with the mustang cover and stapled it in place just like the oem...p.s. Harley staples them on too. All is not lost, you just have to get creative. Harley uses those "riv-nuts" to attach their brackets to the plastic seat pan, so once you locate the proper place to put them, that might be a viable option. If you use them, then you won't have to remove the cover.  Here is the wikipedia entry for the rivnut. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivet_nut    Google rivnut and you can learn all about them.

[chief]

Ok... attached is a diagram of the solo and two up...

Sounds like the person who sold you the bike had a solo, kept the "L" brackets and put the seat back on improperly.

Look at the diagram of the two-up. You will see the two brackets under the seat... no PN.

You have to remove all the hardware under there to install a solo. All of that goes - not the footpegs obviously.

The "L" brackets are usually removed from one seat and applied to the other.

Now look at the solo... you will see the brackets there.

Maybe we can get someone to pull their oem solo and show where the brackets are installed.

Since you don't have those brackets you will have to fabricate some. There is no part number and no other way to get them. You will almost NEVER get the brackets with a used seat... unless its a seat off a wreck.

The seat is attached to the bike at the front, but requires the two side brackets - on ALL 1500 seats regardless. I wouldn't ride the bike without those brackets. The bolts next to PN 92151 in the drawing are also needed.

It was assumed the seat you had on the bike was installed correctly with the proper hardware... good lesson for us! Check it!  Sorry you are having these problems.

There is a mod on the web site for making the L brackets. I think the bolt size is there as well. You are gonna need these no matter what seat you use.

The 99/00 seat was a bit different from the 01 and later. Those had rubber bumpers (red in pic below)... in 01 when kaw went to the solo as oem.. they used a plastic mud guard instead. You don't have to have that.

Take a pic of the bottom of your two-up, and post it if you will.

[griz01]

You are missing what seems to be one of the most difficult pieces to find. On the bottom of both seats there should be 4 studs , two on each side, near the rear of the solo seat, about midway on the 2 up. Kawasaki does not sell them. Most end up building them.

http://www.vulcandrifterriders.com/seatbracket.html

[lumper]

ok, so I got the bike here, I pulled off the 2 up and the arm and grab bar.

Now the solo seat I bought doesnt have any hardware when I bought it I was told I would use the hardware that is holding the 2 up seat.
I even posted a pic somewhere to check the bottom of the seat with someone.

But I cant see anything that I can use as hardware or anything to mount this seat.

I put the seat on the front tank washer and it sits nicely on the seat rails, but there are no brackets or anything that extend to the seat and there doesnt appear to be anywhere to install a bracket to use to mount it.
Can someone show me a pic of their solo seat off the bike and the under side of the seat as well as the seat place on the bike with the seat not on it?
I need to see what I am missing here.

The two up only connected by one screw in the rear that held the seat to the black arm and grab bar, and the gas tank washer in front, thats it.

The solo seat doesnt have a screw coming out of it to attach anywhere, I am a bit lost, but before I ship my seat off I need to make sure I can use this solo seat.

I have it on there only connected to the gas tank washer and it looks great and I supose while I am sitting on it it will be ok, but I know it isnt right
I would appreciate any help you guys can offer me
Thanks in advance,
Lump

[lumper]

Well just spoke to the wife, unless we get her bike before June I am going to need the seat for Americade and Laconia, so that being the case I would be selling it in mid June, unless of course I can find a bike for her by then for $3k or less.
Lump

[Troll]

Can't wait to see it.....good luck with the weather.....

[lumper]

I definitely plan on selling it to help offset the stuff I need.
My wife will get one ride then it is gone!!
I will need the l brackets to mount my new solo seat but anything else I will sell with the seat.
I have been marking and watching all drifter seats for a couple of weeks now to ge an idea of what to expect, they seem to sell pretty fast, this one is in very good shape, the bike only has 5k miles on it and they previous owner used a solo seat so this one was hardly ever used at all.

I need/want so many things that anything I can sell to help has to go, lol thats how I bought the bike and seat and things I have been buying all week, I cleaned out my studio, garage, and hobby room and turned all my junk into a nice drifter, lol.

Thanks again for all your help.
I pick up the bike in 10 days and when I get it home and swap the seat I will post some pics.

Lump

[chief]

Yeah, what Troll said...

Now, all of the underlying hardware has to be removed. All that holds a solo on is the two "L" brackets and the "nose" bracket (which should be same as on the two-up).

If you are planning to sell the double, sell that hardware with it... folks require it to convert from solo to double. If you do plan to sell it, send me an email with a price and I may purchase it for resale.

[Troll]

That's a stock 2-up with a Mustang (discontinued) cover with fringe and conchos. I reupolstered my stock solo with a mustang cover for a nomad. I had to order it by phone, because they don't make one for a drifter, and they were worried that it wouldn't fit, and they would have to do a refund, etc. etc. etc. Bottom line, the front seat for a 2 piece vulcan/nomad, at least from '98 on , is the same. I added fringe, and cut the  skirt off the old cover and had it sewn on. I decided to add the button tufts as an afterthought....