adapter for jack

[Drift1]

Can't wait to see your pics of your work in progress.You know,honestly you should document taking both the rear and front tire off with pics for tips/mods section.Chief told me he would like to add more to that section of the forum.Just a thought.If not I plan on removing my rear this weekend

[pcarrell]

You can post pics......just none with people in them!

[CDNRatMan]

  ok spent the day hunting up an old scissor jack.....man some hard to find them when you want one......got a couple of ideas for it and I'll run them by here once I get some time for posting it, I'll have to ask permission from PC to post a few more pictures, seems he is shy of me posting pictures for some reason.......

[Drift1]

RATMAN,I agree...the second safety level on your jack is plenty high enough.With the bike 12" and rear tire 9" off the ground you'll be pretty comfy on one of those stools working on the bike.That's high enough to clean the under carriage,do oil changes etc.I wouldn't try to go any higher then that especially with no one around for safety reasons.Glad your project was a success for comfort.

[CDNRatMan]

lol that is something a lot of people would never have thought of......lol the weight of the front tire coming off and then watch it go over backwards.......lol........I'll have some help when the tire is removed just for that reason......and so my hands don't get dirty let them do the work I'll supervise.

[pcarrell]

Just make sure you compensate for the weight you're removing from the bike.  Wouldn't want "bad stuff" to happen!

[CDNRatMan]

 Troll, blackwalls are easier to maintain, but the looks of the WW when they are kept clean is such a sweet look and I personally like it more so I'll stick with them...

Drifter1, took it up to the second level and the lift was starting to tilt forward due to the weight of the bike not being fully centered, but that would be an easy fix. But the lift has three safety holds, and on the first one the lift is at 8.5 inches and the rear tire is 5" off the ground. At the second level the rear tire is 9" of the ground and the lift height is 12". At this time I don't see any need to go and higher, I will be removing the front tire later in the month and perhaps then I might have to lift it higher, but I don't think so. If need be I can block the front part of the bike at the second level and lower the lift and the rear will drop and the front will rise and bingo tire is removed.

[Troll]

See, this is why I don't like whitewall tires...you have to clean them! Chrome engine bits, and such clean them selves in the rain

[Drift1]

Good job RATMAN,have you lifted the whole bike up,yet?Sure makes it easier and comfortable to work from a stool,that's for sure.What's the max height on your set up any way? 12-15"

[CDNRatMan]

  ok my bike ahs been on the jack now for 2 full days and it is really stable and the safety feature has not let it down any. So we now are set.
Troll take a look at how hight the rear tire is now, I will be able to sit in a stool and clean my rear tire and rim to met your expectations, so once the snow is gone and the weather warm enough ...sorry above freezing I'll get right on that rear tire. I have named my lift PC, because it has to carry such a weight on its back......lol...

[CDNRatMan]

 don't forget in your grandfather's pj's

[Drift1]

My man,doing things on your own to make things happen isn't "old school" that's what we call "self sufficient".....walking to the shed bare footed...up hill...both ways.... in a snow storm with an ice cold glass of freshly brewed potatoe moonshine to get the jack.....now that's "old school",let's not get the two confused,bud...lmao

[CDNRatMan]

That being said I really dont want to add more weight to the jack being I would have to carry it down a slight hill to one of the side doors or down 12 steps on the other side door

I said ....I'll let you know the final weight once I am done.......and I have to carry it into the house too, and I am a lot older then you.....

there's so much I could say to this,but you've been working so hard,I'm not going to draw my weapon,my man

Rich not much you can say I am older then you, and I still have to move it from the shed to the house and that means carrying it, so I am not sure what you can say. But then i am old School and I understand if I want it doen I need to do it myself because I can not rely on others to do my work for me.

[Drift1]

I appreciate it ,bud.

I'll let you know the final weight once I am done.......and I have to carry it into the house too, and I am a lot older then you.....

.      there's so much I could say to this,but you've been working so hard,I'm not going to draw my weapon,my man

[CDNRatMan]

  I'll let you know the final weight once I am done.......and I have to carry it into the house too, and I am a lot older then you.....

[Drift1]

I've seen you've been pretty busy there,good fella.Thanks for the much needed info,RATMAN.See I have the same problem as you as far as manuvering the bike and jack by myself goes.See ,my garage has no heat so I bring the bikes inside to the man cave,were It's warm and I can tinker with them without freezing my buns off.That being said I really dont want to add more weight to the jack being I would have to carry it down a slight hill to one of the side doors or down 12 steps on the other side door.Think I'm going to have to order the smaller jack for the winter months and leave the modified jack in the garage for riding season use.If your confused by all this,don't feel bad,cause I am myself  .....I have the miss's in one ear & my son in the other as I'm trying to write.......

[CDNRatMan]

Now all said and done the reason I was missing a lot was I needed help in getting the lift to clear the frame and tabs but how.....a chunk of 2x6x6 to lift it to slightly off level but yet balanced on the side stand and sturdynow I can move around and manoeuvre the lift into place around the mono shock.....then add the spacers for the front and bingo it is up and safe, this lift also has a safety feature of a lock to keep it from going down over time....really nice feature to have. The front wooden peices of course need to be cut to the correct size to make them secure, and the weight of the bike will hold them in place.
Tomorrow I'll go and get it welded up and see if it works then....fingers crossed...thanks 49.....

[CDNRatMan]

as you can see the mono shock hangs lower then the tabs on either side that is the reason for the 1" spacers. the only issue now is that the front is in a down angle due to the tabs, but this will be solved bu using a couple of wooden spacers and you can use a couple of diffrent thicknesses to get the lift you want to get the front tire to clear or to just take the weight off the front tire

[CDNRatMan]

 part of the issue is that the mono shock is really low and gets in the way...

[CDNRatMan]

Drifter1 here we go, the whole jack is heavy and unweilding to move around if you are alone and in a tight space. But I finally think I have it figured out.
Jack height compressed with the required spacers is 5.5"
tab on the low side is 5.25
frame on low side is 6"
grease nipple on the mono shock is 4.75"
tab on high side is 7.75"
frame is 8" on high side.
found some flat stock to allow the lift to match the frame original arms were 12" extended them out to 15", then had to cut a section out for the mono shock nipple.
I then added some square stock that was 17x2x1" to make it lift the frame.

[CDNRatMan]

   ok back to it and I was almost done with this and ready to put it on the backburner, and just go and spent the funds on a jack like Troll's. Till I thought of something I had read about driving up on a 2x4 or something. My issue is most of the time I want to tweek, tinker, do work on the bike I am alone and safety is paramount in my mind for both me and the bike. I can not move that heavy floor jack about and hold the bike upright to get it under there. Again depending on how bad my arthritis is affecting me at that time I cannot bend over or kneel down to move the jack about either. Then in the smae problem I can not move fast enough if the bike is falling, so I have to think this out and I am sure I might have it now, so off to try it.....

[CDNRatMan]

 pants on the jack? why?

[Troll]

Put yer pants on first.....

[CDNRatMan]

  ok well after a couple of attemps I came very close to admiting defeat on this project. The driving to my buddies garage to use his plasma cutter and welding tools, about an hour drive one way was getting to be a bit much to make little adjustments and then finding they were off. So today I was sitting there thinking about it and I tried something and it seems to be working, I can lift the rear of the bike and take some weight off the front wheel but not enough to do a tire change. But then after more thinking I might have that solved just have to wait till stores are open so I can get a bit of metal to try something. Never admit defeat......I can thnak Chilli for that last thought.....

PC the 800 has 2 tabs that hang down and those gave me a start on the idea....thanks

49 the tabs will be the focal point of my lift. Thansk for that idea to...lol......community idea it was......

off to go and clean the driveway and such till I can find some scrap metal.....

[CDNRatMan]

  ok stuff happened and I never got the pic's up, but anyway the 2x2's did not work as I wanted them to the mono shock is in the way. So today I went to a buddy's shop and he lent me a hand, we cut some flat stock and some 2x2x2" lifts. Now this weekend I'll be working on it, I have a Santa gig Friday night for a Sqn Family party.....36 kids to deal with for about an hour.
So the plan is the flat stock will take the palce of the 2x2x14's. I'll take pic's Sat as I tweek it, it is at present cut and tacked into palce and this allows me to move parts and get them lined up correctly. Ok later.