Vulcan Drifter Riders

DISCUSSIONS => Drifter 1500 only => Topic started by: AZCaveman on July 25, 2016, 15:23:49 PM

Title: Hardbag mounting
Post by: AZCaveman on July 25, 2016, 15:23:49 PM
Has anyone tried instead of the hanging Bracket for hardbags.  Mounting then on the fender 'crashbar" and attaching the tops directly to the fenders?  I think done cleanly they would flow with the bikes lines better.
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: mittico68 on July 26, 2016, 02:40:30 AM
Yeah, maybe... but that solution would lead to have everything shaken inside the bags, because of the rear fender bouncin'!
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: RockinRollin on July 26, 2016, 09:40:08 AM
Boy , that's a can of worms. Getting bags to look right on this bike can really take some engineering. There is a forum member who has mounted his bags on the fenders, I have pix of his bike but can't remember who it was , maybe Old Drifter? Anyways here is pix of his bags and also pix of the brackets I made for mine that hang off the back seat. My bag hangers match the contour of the fender but my bags don't. Don't know if this helps or not.
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: AZCaveman on July 26, 2016, 15:35:57 PM
I would love to get 2 old 'damaged' rear fenders, turn them into hardbags. And flush mount them to the fenders
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: pcarrell on July 26, 2016, 17:17:07 PM
You'd have to leave a lot of clearance for the suspension to move.  Remember, the exhaust doesn't move, but the fender does!
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: AZCaveman on July 26, 2016, 17:53:19 PM
I thought about that. the suspension mostly moves up away from exhaust.  Not planning to copy Evel with it  lol.  The downward stroke would be maxed out by spring travel.  It would have to have duals as to give more clearance under the bags.  The shock clearance only requires a couple of inches. I think using "old" drifter fenders and making them into hardbags and molding them to the fender would produce nice lines like a bagger.   However, the earlier post about 'shaking the frieght' could be an issue.   I need to find a third 1500 drifter to test out some Ideas! ;D
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: Old Drifter on July 26, 2016, 18:14:37 PM
Quote from: RockinRonny on July 26, 2016, 09:40:08 AM
Boy , that's a can of worms. Getting bags to look right on this bike can really take some engineering. There is a forum member who has mounted his bags on the fenders, I have pix of his bike but can't remember who it was , maybe Old Drifter? Anyways here is pix of his bags and also pix of the brackets I made for mine that hang off the back seat. My bag hangers match the contour of the fender but my bags don't. Don't know if this helps or not.

It's not me. Whoever it is has a Michigan plate.
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: Ironworking on July 26, 2016, 22:32:15 PM
Quote from: AZCaveman on July 26, 2016, 17:53:19 PM
I thought about that. the suspension mostly moves up away from exhaust.  Not planning to copy Evel with it  lol.  The downward stroke would be maxed out by spring travel.  It would have to have duals as to give more clearance under the bags.  The shock clearance only requires a couple of inches. I think using "old" drifter fenders and making them into hardbags and molding them to the fender would produce nice lines like a bagger.   However, the earlier post about 'shaking the frieght' could be an issue.   I need to find a third 1500 drifter to test out some Ideas! ;D

I can assure you plastic or fiberglass saddlebags would not last more than a few hundred miles if loaded with any weight (20 lbs each). They would disintegrate.  Think of the rear end as a hard tail, because essentially it is. The suspension if or the rider/s. It does very little for the tail section.
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: RockinRollin on July 27, 2016, 08:00:28 AM
If it's not old Drifter then I can't think who posted them?
Yes dual pipes make it possible to lower the bags. Have you considered Buco bags?
My bag brackets have 1/2 inch  side clearance from the fender rail. That's as close as you're going to get to the fender with low bags hanging from the back seat. The brackets are made from 1/4 plate with gussets near the neck so there is no side ways flexing even though they hang from the rear seat.
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: pcarrell on July 27, 2016, 10:27:50 AM
Personally, I like the idea of hard bags that mirror the fender in looks and lines, but I think the way to go here is to mount them solid to the frame and as close to the rear fender as possible.  Let the fender float with the road, but hard mount the bags.  Oldies Customs makes fiberglass repops of Drifter fenders, and this would be the starting point for me as fiberglass would be more durable and easier to work with then the stock plastic fender.  http://www.badassglass.us/fenders.html
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: RockinRollin on July 27, 2016, 13:17:11 PM
 I would have preferred hard bags but couldn't find anything I liked. Originally I was going to put on a set of Bucos  but with a flat lid (opening) I couldn't figure out how to match a 2 tone paint job without it looking like crap.
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: RockinRollin on July 27, 2016, 13:25:24 PM
This is the XL Series Bags that sort of follow the fender lines. Not too expensive either. If a half dozen Drifter owners approached a place that does fiberglass I wonder if we could get a mold made for bags that match the fender then make brackets specifically for these bags on the Drifter? How cool would that be?
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: AZCaveman on July 27, 2016, 15:43:44 PM
I have the stock bag mounts and a couple of sets of hardbags.  Being able to mount them isn't an issue.  I wanted to try a "new" approach.  Something more along the lines of a custom bike.  With proper bracing I think the thick abs fenders could hold the weight, especially since you are using the crash bar to carry most of it.  if they were abs welded,molded the would essentially be a one piece unit fender and bags.  Was just looking mostly as a styling exercise.
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: mittico68 on July 30, 2016, 02:23:11 AM
Quote from: RockinRonny on July 27, 2016, 13:17:11 PM
I would have preferred hard bags but couldn't find anything I liked. Originally I was going to put on a set of Bucos  but with a flat lid (opening) I couldn't figure out how to match a 2 tone paint job without it looking like crap.
Man! I too would like to put on a set of Bucos!
And ma-deuce is a one tone coloured...
Do you still have those?
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: thenemos on July 30, 2016, 07:05:57 AM
RockinRonny - Do you have a link to those Buco XLs?
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: greenbarn on July 30, 2016, 09:30:30 AM
Here you go, Thenemos:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-XL-SADDLEBAGS-HARD-SADDLE-BAGS-SUZUKI-C50-M50-C90-109-Boulevard-/331871944968?hash=item4d451c0108:g:e8AAAOxyYYlRp140&vxp=mtr

I wonder how hard those would be to cover in leather???
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: thenemos on July 30, 2016, 14:38:20 PM
Thanks, Greenbarn.
Anyone know who make these hard bags?
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: thenemos on July 30, 2016, 14:44:14 PM
I think they are Bucos:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUCO-HARD-SADDLE-BAGS-PAIR-VINTAGE-WHITE-W-MOUNTS-BRACKETS-HARLEY-PAN-HEAD-TS1-/350779038515?hash=item51ac0f5b33:g:YhQAAMXQHDlRbuTg&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: pcarrell on July 31, 2016, 08:58:51 AM
Quote from: thenemos on July 30, 2016, 14:38:20 PM
Thanks, Greenbarn.
Anyone know who make these hard bags?


These are Buco bags.

Quote from: greenbarn on July 30, 2016, 09:30:30 AM
Here you go, Thenemos:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-XL-SADDLEBAGS-HARD-SADDLE-BAGS-SUZUKI-C50-M50-C90-109-Boulevard-/331871944968?hash=item4d451c0108:g:e8AAAOxyYYlRp140&vxp=mtr

These are not, but they are similar.  These have a much newer styling then a traditional Buco bag.  They are a lot cheaper though.
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: thenemos on July 31, 2016, 09:03:36 AM
Do you know who makes them?
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: pcarrell on July 31, 2016, 09:14:40 AM
Buco went out of business decades ago, but there are a couple of companies that make repops.  Buco made several styles of bags, and I haven't seen anyone repoping this specific style.  From what I understand, the repop's they do make aren't as heavy duty, so refurbing an old set of real Buco's makes the most sense, especially if you're looking for this style.  I hit you with a few links on another thread.  http://www.vulcandrifterriders.com/forum/index.php?topic=17690.msg96099#new
Title: Re: Hardbag mounting
Post by: thenemos on July 31, 2016, 09:51:45 AM
Thanks a million!