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DISCUSSIONS => Drifter 800 Only => Topic started by: gcates on April 21, 2016, 13:11:26 PM

Title: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 21, 2016, 13:11:26 PM
So I'm in the process of ordering some phatrisers II from Scootworks.  I ordered chrome, but they are out and have asked if I'd be interested in the polished.  I'm seeing if there is anyway I can work this to my advantage and the sales person and I are in a dialog about a possible discount on highway pegs.  He's asked what I'd be interested in, but I'm not 100% on the fitment on my 2005 800 drifter.  I believe the frame to be 1.25 inches so I'd need that in a mount (please correct me if I'm wrong in that), but I wonder how far out these pegs are going to come away from my bike to put me in a comfortable spot.  Anyone have any experience with pegs mounted to a frame and not a crash bar.  Any help/advice is appreciated!!
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs from Scootworks
Post by: pcarrell on April 21, 2016, 14:33:48 PM
The frame is the same diameter tubing as the F.I. Classic.
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 22, 2016, 09:59:44 AM
I can measure the frame size to get the right size mounts.  The bigger question is if anyone can help me pick a mount/peg combination that will come out from the frame far enough to be comfortable. 
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: CDNRatMan on April 22, 2016, 10:05:08 AM
  not sure how far they go out but you might want to look at Long horns........

http://www.kuryakyn.com/products/460/longhorn-offset-highway-pegs
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 22, 2016, 10:15:11 AM
I've read some solid reviews on those but I don't see them on the scootworks website.  I've asked him about the Large ISO pegs, but haven't heard anything back from him.  I see they sell the mounts and also a "peg extension" under the accessories section.  But I'm a relative newbie to this and I just don't know where to start.

ETA: I'm finding most folks are mounting pegs to their crash bars.  I've got a crash bar, but it's behind the engine instead of in front.  I don't really want to buy another one just to mount pegs.  Mine looks like the cobra model.  Thoughts on trying to take it off the back and mounting it up front?
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: CDNRatMan on April 22, 2016, 13:40:22 PM
 :o you have a front engine guard behind the engine? I have not seen this before , so could you take a few pictures and post them for me to see this. I had tabs welded on my front engine guard to mount the highway pegs. Will see this summer if that is better then the clamps I had on last summer.
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 22, 2016, 18:48:07 PM
So on a second look, I don't suppose it's a full engine guard, but rather two pieces.  I'll try and include a pic so you guys can advise if I can mount them up front.  I've always thought they get in the wife's way when she's on the back.
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 22, 2016, 18:50:37 PM
The other side:
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 22, 2016, 18:56:09 PM
And one more just for fun!
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: CDNRatMan on April 22, 2016, 20:40:22 PM
   I am going to go out on a limb here and say there is no way those will mount up front with out a bit/lot of work to modify them.
I have attached a picture of the front engine guard for you to see the difference in mounting.
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 22, 2016, 22:33:35 PM
That is quite a bit of difference.  After sitting on my bike and trying to get a feel for what will work, I'm thinking the crash bar/peg installation is gonna be what I want.  Especially with the new risers.  I can't really afford all of that right now, so I think it'll just be the risers for now.  Bummer...
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: mittico68 on April 23, 2016, 02:56:56 AM
Gcates, I've seen your bike has got such an unusual backrest...and it looks really comfortable...
Could you please tell us what make is that?
And most of all, would you post more pics of it?
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: greenbarn on April 23, 2016, 08:55:20 AM
gcates, those guards are referred to by another name, which escapes me at the moment.  I think they are usually used  along with saddlebags.  Like Sir Ratman said, what you need is an engine crash bar, like he showed.   If you do not like those rear bars - I would think you could sell them and put the money towards an engine crash bar.   I think the ones you have are fairly rare and could perhaps be sought after.

As an alternative, I think there are frame-mounted foot pegs you could get by with until you get a crash bar.
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 23, 2016, 10:40:39 AM
I would love to get by without buying a new bar, but I think ultimately, that's gonna be the best setup.  I'm going to wait until I get my risers and get those on to make any final judgement.  I guess I could look at selling the other bars, but I don't mind them. I asked my wife if they got in her way and she said no.  Guess it just looks uncomfortable to me. 

As for the seat, I bought it from a lady in Texas after I purchased my bike.  It came with a nice solo, but I wanted something to put the bride on.  She advertised it as an oem stock two up and it fits like a glove.  It was a little rough and I had to get one of those leather repair kits to touch it up.  But it has been good for me until I can save the money for a nice new seat.  Here are more pics.
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: mittico68 on April 23, 2016, 11:05:05 AM
Never seen something like that... really nice!
But it looks home-made, in my opinion..isn't it?
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: pcarrell on April 23, 2016, 11:25:22 AM
That 2up backrest looks like a modified stock part.  This is a pic of my bike right after I first got it (many moons ago), and you can see the stock grab bar on it.  Looking at the base of your backrest, it looks the same.

(https://www.vulcandrifterriders.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi83.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj319%2Fpcarrell%2FDrifter%2FIMG_0457.jpg&hash=8c9e39438e91affad555951e5d81eb4fbcf035cc) (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/pcarrell/media/Drifter/IMG_0457.jpg.html)
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 23, 2016, 12:27:26 PM
Guess I've got an unusual seat and unusual back guards!   The seat very well may be a combination stock/homemade setup.  She didn't indicate that at the time.  It certainly looks like Pastor's oem seat.  I bought the bike from a guy named Rocco who lives in Mass.  Worked for Indian and had my bike set up to look the way it does.  I've only put the 2 up on it and the Hard Krome pipes.  Don't know where he got the guard set.  I could ask him...we're still in touch. 
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: CDNRatMan on April 23, 2016, 12:59:37 PM
The seat is not a OEM seat fort he bike, it almost looks like the Corbin seat I shipped to Nanook a few years back.  The backrest does look like a homemade custom job. The rear engine guards were available there a few places, but are now another hard to find item, Ted in the US, and Malcolm in the UK were both making them for people but I am sure both have retired from that line.
Just my 2 cents worth I would hang on to the guards as they are hard to find, when you can add a front engine guard for your foot pegs, I had a local lad re do my seat for me with gel and memory foam and cost me less then $300.00 to be done and it is super comfy now. 
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: mittico68 on April 24, 2016, 02:26:33 AM
I do agree with Mr. Ratty: you'd better keep that rear guards with the bike...
They really add a retro-look style... maybe you should paint them black, so to match with the backrest (just my 2 cents...).
I've bought a Ted's pair of black rear guards for a few bucks (please, look at my gallery: pics n.3-6) and I'm really glad I did it just in time: now they're absolutely out of stock!
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: tj on April 24, 2016, 14:16:21 PM
never seen those rear guards before...nice!
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: CDNRatMan on April 24, 2016, 19:04:36 PM
  like I said Ted used to make them and they are well used in the UK.
Title: Re: ? about highway pegs
Post by: mittico68 on April 25, 2016, 05:25:31 AM
Quote from: tj on April 24, 2016, 14:16:21 PM
never seen those rear guards before...nice!
Yeah, and they're solid rock and can be used as passenger's pegs...
Now I've installed a pair of F&S black passenger's floorboards, so I'm just scratchin' my head since that they don't allow me to put on the rear guards...
Title: scootworks phatriser II
Post by: gcates on April 29, 2016, 09:46:32 AM
So I settled on the phatrisers II polished aluminum because after reading some things here I wasn't sure I'd ever get the chrome ones in because they didn't have any in stock and they were 4 weeks out.  I got them last night and put them on.  Impressions:

First the bad.  I don't really like the look of them (the finish) or the way the front of my bike looks with the wires running behind the triple tree.  All you can see are the great big risers.  It took me a long time and what I hope wasn't too much stress on the clutch cable to get all of the cables rerouted.  I ended up having to take off my lower exhaust which meant taking off my right floor board just to be able to get to all of the clutch bolts.  It was certainly more than I bargained for and again, I hope my clutch is in proper order and doesn't snap on me down the road.  Although, admittedly, I wasn't getting much info out of my service manual and I didn't really know what I was doing until I later found a video on youtube that helped tremendously.  My first experience messing with the clutch.

All that being said, I think I'm going to really like the feel of where the bars are at now and I think it will really help with my back/neck problems that I have when riding.  The new feel is certainly going to take some getting used to.  If I decide I'm not happy with the new feel, the risers will be for sale at discount price and I'll list them here first. 

Not terribly impressed with scootworks customer service, although the risers shipped to me fast once Dave acknowledged I was placing my final order and I sent a follow up email a few days later wanting to know if they had shipped or not.
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: mittico68 on April 29, 2016, 09:52:36 AM
Gcates, you should know... no pics it didn't happen... lol...
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 29, 2016, 11:02:01 AM
Hahaha!!!  Oh, it happened!!!  I got the banged up knuckles and smudged chrome to prove it.  But I will try and get some pictures up this evening when I get home.
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: CDNRatMan on April 29, 2016, 11:20:24 AM
  When I added my risers I just undid the clutch at the lever and did not touch it anyplace else. Then replaced it once I did the re routing and is done and working fine. Once we see the pictures we might be able to help you out.
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 29, 2016, 11:52:32 AM
I tried that, but the tension was such that I couldn't get it out of the lever.  Saw a good video from Revzilla that showed a repair on a clutch cable on a Harley.  So I finally got everything done and I believe put back in the right place.  But I have a little concern about the actual cable up by the lever.  I may end up just getting a new cable all together and trying to replace the current one. 

If you could, do you have pictures of your bike with an up close of the risers?  I'd like to see them on someone else's bike. 
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: CDNRatMan on April 29, 2016, 16:05:59 PM
ok I had a choice of these 2 styles of risers and went with the black set.
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 29, 2016, 19:35:37 PM
I like those black ones.  Seems like most folks that have risers also have wins shield that "hide" the risers themselves.  I have a small windshield I may put back on to see how I like it with the risers.

I didn't just go for a very short ride and I really like the new feel.  I feel like I have more control and it is way more comfortable.  I'm very pleased!
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: CDNRatMan on April 29, 2016, 19:40:35 PM
   Hate to say I bought those black ones from a lad who had his own bike repair shop here in town and then he had a long bitter fight with cancer and sold everything off. I scored these from him, and had them powder coated and really liked the height and pull back on them and they give me the perfect position for my way of riding. I never did learn what the brand was or were he got them, and there is no makings on them
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 29, 2016, 19:47:19 PM
Part of him lives on ever time you crank up! 

Oh and here's the proof it happened!
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 29, 2016, 19:49:04 PM
Anyone know why most of my pics come in sideways?
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: CDNRatMan on April 29, 2016, 21:33:52 PM
 Are you using a phone to take the pictures?

Not sure if I am a fan of those risers......
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on April 29, 2016, 22:13:18 PM
I don't like the way they look either.  Too close together.  I know it's the same hole as stock, but he height just makes it look weird. 

Yes, I am using a phone for he pics.
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: CDNRatMan on April 29, 2016, 22:44:28 PM
 Not sure why but most times when people use a phone the pictures come out on their side or upside down.

I have my risers behind my windscreen and you do not even know that they are there. I just found I could not use a windscreen bag anymore as the flap is in the way of the risers or the risers are in the way of the flap. But I sure like the feel of the bars and how I am sitting now.
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: mittico68 on April 30, 2016, 02:19:55 AM
Quote from: gcates on April 29, 2016, 19:49:04 PM
Anyone know why most of my pics come in sideways?
I know it! Maybe it's because you should lay down your bike on the opposite side... duh!
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: tj on April 30, 2016, 08:28:20 AM
Quote from: mittico68 on April 30, 2016, 02:19:55 AM
I know it! Maybe it's because you should lay down your bike on the opposite side... duh!

lmao!
Title: Re: scootworks phatriser II - from ?'s about highway pegs
Post by: gcates on May 01, 2016, 15:57:31 PM
Anybody got any up close pics of the Phatriser IIs on their drifters?