Guys I'm starting to believe MA-DEUCE doesn't like her new company in the garage :( Here's my story and issue :
I took the 800 out of hibernation from the basement yesterday , added some fuel and she fired right up . I proceeded on a little ride to test the new brakes , listen to the added road house exhaust etc . and she run like a charm with no issues what so ever . I pulled her out the garage this morning to run down to the corner store and she died out three houses down , as I'm coasting down the hill I'm trying to restart the bike with no luck . NOW I'm at the bottom of the hill at the stop sign with a bike that just won't fire so I push her home ( the hill kicked my rump ) As I'm looking everything over I notice a small drip on the inside bottom carburetor bolt so I snug that up , fuel filter on the bottom half some sippage , fix that issue . Now all I'm getting is the click..click ...click click click as I try to fire the bike up . She's torn back apart and I'm waiting on my charger to finish charging to try and jump her . Man I hope she fires :-\ .... Could my battery need to replaced , and why did she just die out ???? Could she be starving for fuel ?? Or does she just not like the company in the garage ;D
The only mod I did engine wise was remove the epa crap and the marble thing .
Any assistance on this would be greatly appreciated .
Well, I know the F.I. bikes won't run without a good battery, but yours is carbed. Charging the battery will at least get you back to square 1.
;) might not be able to help but when we were doing all the dash light things...duh.....and I was turning my key on and off and messing with the lights, I at one point had bleeped the start to get the headlight on, well late went to turn things on and bleep the starter, an nada, rein, nothing, well figured it was the battery, and so tender was hooked up and all fired to getting things sorted out and my tender went green in like 10 mins of charging.....strange....but nothing from the starter...mmmmm...dumb ass the bike is in gear and the side stand happens to be down....dauh......
ok did we prime the engine?
did we check the fuses,
did we check the kill switch,
if those are good,
check the battery for strength, but should have bump started anyway.......
OK just came from the garage and so far I checked all the fuses , petcock is in working order , all fuel and vent lines in good shape and connected . My jumper wasn't charged enough but just for haha's I hooked it up to the bike and am getting crank so that's a plus . I'm waiting for a full charge from the charger before I try and jump it again .
Now that I think about it , is it possible the carb gummed up after completely draining the system ? The whole system was drained to repaint the tank , disassemble the petcock for service etc . Perhaps the float is stuck in the bowl as well , flooding the system making it harder to start ? I didn't have it on a trickle charger at all , this winter being it was mostly apart ( I know I kick myself in the rear ) and praying it's indeed , just time for a new battery :(
On the plus side, it doesn't sound like anything big. Varnish could indeed cause a stuck float. Once you get it going, I'd OD the thing on Seafoam in the fuel for a couple of tanks, just to be safe!
That's the same plan I was thinking PC .
Things just got a little worse :P Just hooked up the charger and got one click , but now it's a faint tick noise . I think the IC box ( I think it's called ) have to look that up went caput :-[ .....
I double checked all the fuses along with the main fuse and there all good . Even replaced the main fuse to be on the safe side and nothing .
Do you have a multi meter to check your battery and charging system?
No I don't , Ratman :( Tomorrow I'll see if I can find a battery local and start from there ???
Quote from: Drift1 on April 26, 2014, 17:33:15 PM
That's the same plan I was thinking PC .
Things just got a little worse :P Just hooked up the charger and got one click , but now it's a faint tick noise . I think the IC box ( I think it's called ) have to look that up went caput :-[ .....
I double checked all the fuses along with the main fuse and there all good . Even replaced the main fuse to be on the safe side and nothing .
Does the engine crank?
It was cranking before Troll , but now it's just clicking away from the ignitor . I just came in from trying it again . It's weird because yesterday everything was fine . I'm hoping it's just a battery issue , but why did it just stall out while running ?
before buying a new battery get it checked and see if that is the issue.
Clean and tighten all battery connections. When I first got my W-650, I had a strange problem that only would show up intermittently. Sometimes it was once a day, and sometimes is once every minute. The neg. battery terminal was just ever so slightly loose. You're riding along, and the engine would not exactly miss, but it felt more like the trans had hopped out of and then back into gear. That was about 15,000 miles ago when I first bought it....Clicking noises from heavy current demand devices usually mean a loose or dirty high capacity connection.
I will check for that Troll . That would be a blessing if that 's all it is , for sure .
No dice Troll .... both terminals are nice and tight and when I turn the key to the on position I'm getting all my lights , hit the start button and just a constant clickkkkkkkk
Sounds like a dead battery...could have opened an internal cell connector. Do you have a set of jumper cables you can connect to a NON running car?.
I do have cables Troll
Troll would a power pack work just as well as a none running car?
:) Ok so thanks to our forum guru , " Mr. Troll " I'm happy to say after jumping the bike this morning she fired right up ;) I'll be off to see if indeed the local shops have a battery . If not I'll order one up .
I'm still going to run a fair amount of sea foam through the system to eliminate the possibility of being hummed up , just to be on the safe side .
I'm thinking my best bet would be to get MA-DEUCE in the shop so they can check the air/fuel ratio for me , as I don't have a clue on how to do so .
Thanks for all the comments and process of elimination guys its greatly appreciated , as always
In the meantime, there is a lonely 1500 in the other corner of the garage that could use a little wind across it's headlight...........just sayin'!
All's well that ends well...
Quote from: pcarrell on April 27, 2014, 08:03:55 AM
In the meantime, there is a lonely 1500 in the other corner of the garage that could use a little wind across it's headlight...........just sayin'!
Pastor dude thankfully I have this other ride she's going out today to find her baby sister a new battery .... LOL
MA-DEUCE is back in running condition :)
Ok so went out today and installed a new battery , added a dose of sea foam and my baby fired right up and purred light a mt lion ... LOL .... I took her on a short run about 15 miles to make sure all is well and she ran perfectly . I stopped off to take a few pictures at Jay's lake .
Nice...
Thank you Troll and thank you for your expertize once again ;)
Well that's good news!
Looks great and runs great.......can't ask for more!
ok questions were answered other then mine about the power pack......
I'm guessing a power pack can be used as LONG as it's for this size battery and not a 12v system . My guess it would fry something ?
The power pack would work fine- the Drifters are all 12 volt. There haven't been any 6V stuff for a long time.
Quote from: greenbarn on April 27, 2014, 22:01:43 PM
The power pack would work fine- the Drifters are all 12 volt. There haven't been any 6V stuff for a long time.
Duh .... what was I thinking ::) guess we all have blonde moments here and there ......
I made the same mistake a little while ago. You know what they say......sick minds think alike!
;D ;) ..... Now the world should be scared if there's more than one of us Pastor Dude
Quote from: pcarrell on April 28, 2014, 07:41:38 AM
I made the same mistake a little while ago. You know what they say......sick minds think alike!
On the battery issue - with the electronic ignition, if there isn't enough voltage, there will be no spark. I made the mistake of leaving my key on last summer, and the battery went dead. Tried to push start myself - no go. Got 2 of the guys to push me, tried to start - no go. Then it occurred to me... No voltage --> no ignition --> no spark --> no start. It just sucks you have to pull the seat off (and saddlebag mounts of course, if you have them) to get to the battery. SO I put a charger connection on mine coming out of the left cover, to be able to hook up a charger if needed. Or a tender...