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DISCUSSIONS => General Discussion => Topic started by: CDNRatMan on January 13, 2013, 12:52:15 PM

Title: Tire Question
Post by: CDNRatMan on January 13, 2013, 12:52:15 PM
  I have a tire question before I order new ones.

Present tires are Maxxis Classic
Front 130/90 - 16 67H
Rear 140/90 - 16 77H

I would like to put on the Metzler 880 ME
Front 130/90 - 16 TL 67H
Rear 140/90 - 16 REINFTL 73H

  I have tried to find out what all them extra letters are, the TL and the REINFTL, ok does anyone have a proper answer......found a few but I could not muddle through the stuff they were sprouting, in plain Canadian would be nice. Thanks.
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: aralph on January 13, 2013, 14:41:19 PM
Hey Rat, was told by my mechanic all spoked rims need a inner tube, therefore TT is what you would need.
What's the diff between a TL & TT construction???

TL: Tubeless (TL): Tubeless tyre - Tubetype (TT): Tubetype tyre

http://www.metzeler.com/site/uk/tech-and-safety/understanding-your-tyres.html

That being said, Metzeler allows you to use a TL tire if you use a new Metzler tube and
stay under 230 km/h
http://www.metzeler.com/site/uk/tech-and-safety/safety-maintenance.html

REINF TL, I couldn't find anything either.

ride safe
aralph
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: Troll on January 13, 2013, 14:54:48 PM
230 km/hr is 143 mph...I don't think that would be an issue...and your tires are only H rated...140 mph!
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: chief on January 13, 2013, 17:29:13 PM
I don't think there are any tubed cruiser tires left. (Tubed tires are available for off-road bikes.) For spoked rims you use a tubeless tire with a tube.
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: pcarrell on January 13, 2013, 17:35:57 PM
That seems strange since so many bikes still have spoked wheels......not disputing it, just seems strange.
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: chief on January 13, 2013, 17:50:58 PM
There are fewer and fewer with spoke wheels. Its easy to confirm... go to the major mfg'rs and look at their road bike listings. Most will tell you to use tubeless with tubes for spoke applications.
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: CDNRatMan on January 13, 2013, 18:34:31 PM
  OK I promise to stay under 230 km/h or 143 mph........

  I also knew that I needed tubes and have them on order along with rim rubbers/liners. It was just the lettering that had me confussed.
I will simple call the supplier in the morning and confirm with them about the lettering and what it means. I did send an email but have not gotten a response yet perhaps due to the weekend. Thanks
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: aralph on January 13, 2013, 21:09:33 PM
Good, I was concerned about that. ;D
Strange how there seems to be nothing online about their lettering.

regards
aralph
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: pcarrell on January 13, 2013, 21:38:42 PM
One would think they would want you to know exactly what you're buying................
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: CDNRatMan on January 13, 2013, 22:08:06 PM
  I am going to apply some common sense here too, and remember other vehicles and rides, I can not think any reason why you can not put a tube into a tubless tire. New tubes, new rim liner/rubbers, and then I should be good to go.
I spent time again tonight trying to find them letters and the only think I could come up with was REINF would be for reinforced tubeless.......I have been thinking of this for a few days.

just my thoughts.....
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: John Hopkins on January 14, 2013, 08:00:24 AM
REINFTL stands for reinforced sidewall tubeless tires..

John.
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: chief on January 14, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
About tire sizing and markings -




http://www.vulcandrifterriders.com/tiresizinginfo.html




Remember we have a lot of information in the Accessories and Mods/Tips section of the web site.


http://www.vulcandrifterriders.com/reviewpost/index.php
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: CDNRatMan on January 14, 2013, 11:38:04 AM
  I just got off the phone with Pete's tires and John Hopkins is correct......lol....I have never seen that on the side of a tire myself so was not sure. He also told me less and less companies are making the wide white walls anymore, they are becoming a dieing breed of tires. So I am ordering them tomorrow after work and should have them in 5 days.
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: Never too late on March 03, 2013, 19:09:50 PM
Hi everyone

Found a big screw in my old tire and was forced to get some new white walls

I am running Metzler 880 's WW ( front 130 / 90 16 67 rear 140 / 90 b16 77 ) and they were set up at the Kwai shop with 28 psi on the rear and 26 on the front. 

It looks like this is a fairly common tire for the drifter 800's....I was just wondering what everyone else has their tire pressure at ?  Because the guidelines on the tire are like 42 psi.

Just curious

Cheers

NTL
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: CDNRatMan on March 03, 2013, 19:22:30 PM
  Sounds like what I was running my Maxxis at and now that I have the Metzler 880's I was going to try them out at the same pressure...
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: Never too late on March 03, 2013, 19:27:11 PM
Ok ..... Thanks.... I 'll give them a try at that psi set up.

Cheers

Ntl
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: Troll on March 03, 2013, 19:54:22 PM
http://www.bigotires.com/librarydetail/How-to-Decode-the-Markings-on-a-Tire-Sidewall
Pay attention to the safety note.   I'm running my Michelin Commanders at Kawasaki's recommended pressure. Michelin says to use the factory inflation pressures,
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: CDNRatMan on March 03, 2013, 21:59:50 PM
Ok just went through the 800 owner's manual and here is what they say.

Frt with 395 lbs = 28psi

rear 215 lbs = 28 psi

rear 395 = 32 psi

so I am going to try it at 28 psi all round because I ride alone and seldom carry gear that would weigh that much , but increase it for a road trip....at least try it
Title: Re: Tire Question
Post by: Never too late on March 04, 2013, 21:47:59 PM
Good points

I should have looked at my owners manual also.   I knew I had it for a reason.... I think I will adjust both front and rear to 28 psi as recommended by kawaski.

Cheers

Ntl