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Quote from: CDNRatMan on September 23, 2013, 16:31:17 PMand we now have heard from Scrooge McDuck.......
A guy's gotta learn to save where he can, gotta pay for toys SOMEHOW. On the other hand, if I had all your money, I could burn mine...
and we now have heard from Scrooge McDuck.......
Quote from: DC on September 23, 2013, 07:01:52 AMJust park on top of a hill. Gerbil food costs money...On that note, what I was thinking to do to keep from using my battery on start-ups was to have one of those gerbil exercise wheels hooked up to a small generator motor. When I want to start my bike, I lure the gerbil into the treadmill wheel with some food and he starts running. This, in turn, will rotate the shaft on the generator, thus creating the 12v I need for start-up. Once I get the bike started, I give the gerbil a treat so he doesn't have to run anymore. This way I can make my battery last longer from not having to use it for start ups at home. I haven't yet figgered a way to bring the gerbil and treadmill with me for start ups when on the road.
Quote from: CDNRatMan on September 21, 2013, 15:38:55 PMOn that note, what I was thinking to do to keep from using my battery on start-ups was to have one of those gerbil exercise wheels hooked up to a small generator motor. When I want to start my bike, I lure the gerbil into the treadmill wheel with some food and he starts running. This, in turn, will rotate the shaft on the generator, thus creating the 12v I need for start-up. Once I get the bike started, I give the gerbil a treat so he doesn't have to run anymore. This way I can make my battery last longer from not having to use it for start ups at home. I haven't yet figgered a way to bring the gerbil and treadmill with me for start ups when on the road.WOW 1908 think you should replace it Mr. Benny, Sir time to let it go and get a new one.....
Keep the old battery fully charged, you never know when you might need it, even if it only helps someone else get home..
John.
WOW 1908 think you should replace it Mr. Benny, Sir time to let it go and get a new one.....
If it were mine, I wouldn't bother to try to do anything with a 2008 battery. 5 years is a long life for a battery. That's like 72 in human years. Like Troll says, even in a car that's about average for battery life. Right now at the shop we're replacing batteries from a lot of 2007, 2008, and some 2009's already.
A car battery from '08 is pretty old! Most H-D types get a year or 2 tops out of a battery...
The old battery is from 2008. Maybe I could try selling it on CL locally.
I think you found your problem.
How old is the old batt anyway?
You could try to sell one of the batteries.
Or you could keep the new one safe and warm and dry, and use the old one until it does crap out, as it will sooner or later.
Okay, here's the latest. Yesterday I went to Lowe's and got a metric bolt and a lag bolt, in a larger size. Thought about it a while, then bagged using those. Went to the hardware store today. Explained everything to an old guy there. He methodically zeroed in on how to fix this.. . . pretty much what you are all saying.
First get a self-tapping screw the next size, 1/4 20. Then we got a 1/4 20 bolt. So I used the self-tapping screw to clear a way in and make new threads. Then I used the 1/4 bolt in place of the original M6. I had to use some washers underneath the head to reduce the effective length, since it was a bit longer than the M6. Put it all together and tightened it up. Works great!!!!!
Started right up. No clickety click. So far. Went on a chilly ride for about 2 hours running errands. I'm deliberately NOT going to put in on the Battery Tender Plus(tm) for a week or so.. I want to determine if there is something draining the battery when the bike is off. If no clickety click after a week or 2, then it was just the loose ground cable causing the problem.
So now what do I do with the original battery, which apparently is still good?
Loc-tite used to sell a product called "thread restore" or something like that. I had a harmonic balancer fail on a 454 chev engine; when I changed it, the threads in the end of the crank shaft failed. Anyway, I tried the loc-tite stuff, it said would give 80% strength of the original thread. Put a release agent on the bolt, filled the end of the crankshaft and coated the bolt with the Loc-tite stuff, put it in, waited overnight. Unscrewed the bolt, cleaned everything up and pulled the balancer on with it. If you tyr this, just make sure you clean the engine case to bare metal where the connector sits when the bolt is tight after using the Loc-tite stuff.
Quote from: greenbarn on September 17, 2013, 11:38:37 AMI'm going to Lowe's tonight to try to find a self-tapping bolt.You might, just might, be able to find a self-tapping bolt to fit. You would have to take the original to a HW store. I would not try this unless that's the only purpose for the hole (i.e. just a ground strap, not holding anything else on). Keep in mind most threads are "stripped" from aluminum b/c of over-tightening and/or cross threading, but mostly over-tightening.
Last night I tried something I heard elsewhere. I cut up some paper clips and tried to use them as grip material for the bolt. Basically, the paper clip metal is too soft or won't stay in place. I worked on that for a couple of hours last night, to no avail.
Then I tried using a larger bolt in the hole, but it was too big. It looks like a 1/4 20 might work in there.
So on to the self-tapping bolt idea.
You might, just might, be able to find a self-tapping bolt to fit. You would have to take the original to a HW store. I would not try this unless that's the only purpose for the hole (i.e. just a ground strap, not holding anything else on). Keep in mind most threads are "stripped" from aluminum b/c of over-tightening and/or cross threading, but mostly over-tightening.
I guess that's what I'll have to try then. So I'll find a location, then go out and get a cable long enough to reach it.
Before I do that, I'm wondering if I could wrap the bolt threads with some thin metal, to try to get a better grip. Something like aluminum foil, but not aluminum, as mixing it with copper can cause problems.
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