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Posted by CDNRatMan
- November 10, 2016, 20:36:08 PM800 floor boards for the rear are different then the 1500 I think so sorry I will hang on to them......lol.......
Posted by Trall
- November 10, 2016, 19:55:56 PMQuote from: CDNRatMan on November 10, 2016, 11:54:42 AMAm. That's very true. Now sell me those floorboards if they fit a 1500. There is still or was a rear pass chrome NOS for 360. I passed just waiting it out. If they were 260 I would of pulled the trigger. On the other hand when I first got my Drifter and say those crazy old school factory solo set rails I wanted one so bad would of got a small loan if one came for sale at a crazy price but luckily waiting I bought a set of black saddlebags from a 1500 owner on EBay and afterwards just asked if he other parts he was going to sell and that's how I found my solo seat rail. Also though it was a fair price at 400.
This brings us to the question.....of ...... what is it worth to you.........
Ok so someone has a item for sale, so one can assume that it means nothing to the person, otherwise why are they selling it. What is it worth to you? Well perhaps you might really need this to finish a project, or, it is a rather hard item to find, so in reality it is priceless to you.
I can also make this a personal story, I wanted folding floor boards, next to impossible to find. Someone had a set and sent them to me and said pay me what they are worth to you. So I checked around and found the fair market value for folding floor boards for a Vulcan 800. We both came out good on the deal.
But to many people set a stupid high price on something because they think it is worth the high price because it is not easily found, or available.
So in short it is really only valued at the price you want to pay for it........Just have to figure out how to leave Troll my 800 once I am gone.........
Posted by Zoar
- November 10, 2016, 14:32:34 PMQuote from: jmbo on November 10, 2016, 10:29:45 AMOne thing I found out when I was looking for my 800: NADA pricing is way off. You will not find an 8-- for $2582 and if you do it is a parts bike or has some major issues. I looked for months! I looked at a lot of bikes... I would say NADA is a solid $2K under what the market says. I can't understand why they do this with the Drifter, but they do.As you pointed out, it all depends on if you are buying or selling or keeping.....and what the insurance company will give you if crap hits the fan. Somewhere in all these numbers there is a realistic value.
Regarding 800's being worth significantly more than 1500's. Doubt it. NADA lists an '02 1500 at $3267 and the same year 800 at $2582. In my mind both are ridiculously low prices but then I have no plans to sell mine either.
Posted by CDNRatMan
- November 10, 2016, 11:54:42 AM This brings us to the question.....of ...... what is it worth to you.........
Ok so someone has a item for sale, so one can assume that it means nothing to the person, otherwise why are they selling it. What is it worth to you? Well perhaps you might really need this to finish a project, or, it is a rather hard item to find, so in reality it is priceless to you.
I can also make this a personal story, I wanted folding floor boards, next to impossible to find. Someone had a set and sent them to me and said pay me what they are worth to you. So I checked around and found the fair market value for folding floor boards for a Vulcan 800. We both came out good on the deal.
But to many people set a stupid high price on something because they think it is worth the high price because it is not easily found, or available.
So in short it is really only valued at the price you want to pay for it........
Just have to figure out how to leave Troll my 800 once I am gone.........
Posted by jmbo
- November 10, 2016, 10:29:45 AMQuote from: Zoar on November 10, 2016, 09:26:50 AMAs you pointed out, it all depends on if you are buying or selling or keeping.....and what the insurance company will give you if crap hits the fan. Somewhere in all these numbers there is a realistic value.I don't care about resale value at all. I never plan to sell my 800 and I plan to buy a 1500 and I want to get it soon... I do not want these prices/values going up.
Regarding 800's being worth significantly more than 1500's. Doubt it. NADA lists an '02 1500 at $3267 and the same year 800 at $2582. In my mind both are ridiculously low prices but then I have no plans to sell mine either.
Posted by Zoar
- November 10, 2016, 09:26:50 AMQuote from: Troll on November 08, 2016, 17:45:56 PMI don't care about resale value at all. I never plan to sell my 800 and I plan to buy a 1500 and I want to get it soon... I do not want these prices/values going up.I'm at a loss as to why everybody seems to be worried about resale value. I have my 1500, and I'm just 74 miles short of 110,000 miles on it, as of this afternoon, and I really don't care about value...just reliability. Sure it's nice when people comment on how nice it looks, but nobody ever asks how much it's worth....to me, it's priceless, but I tend to keep things I like for a long time...it's a vehicle, NOT an investment!
Posted by jmbo
- November 10, 2016, 08:39:39 AMQuote from: Driftwood on November 07, 2016, 19:57:35 PMNote: These are asking prices. Reality is what they actually pay. A $7900.00 800 Drifter might not sell quickly.Looking at Cycle Trader, 800's going from 3900 - 7900, but 1550s going for ~2900. Seems 800s are more desirable than 1500s. Weight?
Posted by mittico68
- November 09, 2016, 03:51:45 AMQuote from: Troll on November 08, 2016, 17:45:56 PMI'm at a loss as to why everybody seems to be worried about resale value. I have my 1500, and I'm just 74 miles short of 110,000 miles on it, as of this afternoon, and I really don't care about value...just reliability. Sure it's nice when people comment on how nice it looks, but nobody ever asks how much it's worth....to me, it's priceless, but I tend to keep things I like for a long time...it's a vehicle, NOT an investment!
That's what I think, too... and I'm keepin' my bike since I bought her in july 1999!
Posted by Old Drifter
- November 08, 2016, 19:08:32 PMQuote from: Troll on November 08, 2016, 17:45:56 PMWhat he said too.I'm at a loss as to why everybody seems to be worried about resale value. I have my 1500, and I'm just 74 miles short of 110,000 miles on it, as of this afternoon, and I really don't care about value...just reliability. Sure it's nice when people comment on how nice it looks, but nobody ever asks how much it's worth....to me, it's priceless, but I tend to keep things I like for a long time...it's a vehicle, NOT an investment!
Posted by Troll
- November 08, 2016, 17:45:56 PMI'm at a loss as to why everybody seems to be worried about resale value. I have my 1500, and I'm just 74 miles short of 110,000 miles on it, as of this afternoon, and I really don't care about value...just reliability. Sure it's nice when people comment on how nice it looks, but nobody ever asks how much it's worth....to me, it's priceless, but I tend to keep things I like for a long time...it's a vehicle, NOT an investment!
Posted by Trall
- November 08, 2016, 16:02:14 PMQuote from: Zoar on November 08, 2016, 12:18:35 PMWith the increasing rarity and super cool history and designs of both Drifters, I see them only appreciating in the future.My Drifter 800 is VERY valuable to me.
That said, I am so glad these Drifter motorcycles of both flavors are very undervalued and you can buy either one of them for a fraction of the price of other cruisers.
My plan as soon as I sell one of my companies is to buy at least one more Drifter because they are SO valuable, yet, under-priced!
Posted by Zoar
- November 08, 2016, 12:18:35 PMQuote from: Trall on November 08, 2016, 08:05:52 AMMy Drifter 800 is VERY valuable to me.Ok, you 800 lovers. I owned both and priced out both. 800's Core range is 2k to 4k and 1500's core range 3k to 6k. As with anything is miles, condition and accessories. Cycletrader in any given month price fluctuates on both, that and comparing 1500's with 60000 and 70000 miles to 800's with 7000 is not a market price point or apples to watermelons. Their are some 800's and 1500's that are in the higher end of the scale based on ultra low miles, ultra mint condition but the core values remain.
I seen several mint low milage 1500's sale in the past year for $6,000 to $7000 but never seen a mint low milage 800 sale above $5000 or any thing close to 6 to 7 k range. The obvious is engine size and both are designed and born from the 1940's ere Indian Chief. Both are awesome machines that we call our Drifters.........
That said, I am so glad these Drifter motorcycles of both flavors are very undervalued and you can buy either one of them for a fraction of the price of other cruisers.
My plan as soon as I sell one of my companies is to buy at least one more Drifter because they are SO valuable, yet, under-priced!
Posted by Old Drifter
- November 08, 2016, 08:11:46 AMQuote from: Trall on November 08, 2016, 08:05:52 AMWhat he said.Ok, you 800 lovers. I owned both and priced out both. 800's Core range is 2k to 4k and 1500's core range 3k to 6k. As with anything is miles, condition and accessories. Cycletrader in any given month price fluctuates on both, that and comparing 1500's with 60000 and 70000 miles to 800's with 7000 is not a market price point or apples to watermelons. Their are some 800's and 1500's that are in the higher end of the scale based on ultra low miles, ultra mint condition but the core values remain.
I seen several mint low milage 1500's sale in the past year for $6,000 to $7000 but never seen a mint low milage 800 sale above $5000 or any thing close to 6 to 7 k range. The obvious is engine size and both are designed and born from the 1940's ere Indian Chief. Both are awesome machines that we call our Drifters.........
Posted by Trall
- November 08, 2016, 08:05:52 AMOk, you 800 lovers. I owned both and priced out both. 800's Core range is 2k to 4k and 1500's core range 3k to 6k. As with anything is miles, condition and accessories. Cycletrader in any given month price fluctuates on both, that and comparing 1500's with 60000 and 70000 miles to 800's with 7000 is not a market price point or apples to watermelons. Their are some 800's and 1500's that are in the higher end of the scale based on ultra low miles, ultra mint condition but the core values remain.
I seen several mint low milage 1500's sale in the past year for $6,000 to $7000 but seen a few mint low milage 800 sale above $5000 or any thing close to 6 to 7 k range. The obvious is engine size and both are designed and born from the 1940's ere Indian Chief. Some 800 do sell above $5000 i.e., I did sell my 800 this summer for $5600 that was perfect, like new two tone paint, both solo and complete double seat with backrest and luggage rack and saddlebags accessories and crazy low miles around 2500. I had $6300 into bike but that is how it goes you always have more into bike then you can get back. If I could afford it would love to have both. Both are awesome machines that we call our beloved Drifters.........
Posted by mittico68
- November 08, 2016, 04:21:17 AMMaybe, Mr. Ratman.
But I would consider even the fact that in the USA there are less 800 than 1500 Drifters. Isn't it?