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Posted by greenbarn
- July 12, 2016, 16:36:39 PMLooks good!
Posted by Zoar
- July 12, 2016, 12:19:27 PMQuote from: greenbarn on July 12, 2016, 10:52:46 AMI will need to take pictures after its gets dark tonight to get something that you can "see" the way it looks with brake on verses off, daylight pics reveal no difference even though your eyes can see it... so have to wait to at least tomorrow for me to post "cool photos of this enhancement and retro-fying of my 2002 Drifter to look even more 1939-ish.1157, 2357, 198 -- all the same base; all fit the same socket.
2357 is about 20% brighter than 1157 on the brake element. Unfortunately, life is only about 400 hours vs 1000 ( or something like that - can't remember for sure)
198 is a more heavy duty version than the 1157, but I think it's the same lumens as the 1157 (I'm not positive on the 198 info) I think the 198 bulb is the "OEM" bulb for a lot of bikes, and used in trucks and trailers. I think the base construction, filaments, etc are more 'robust'.ZOAR: How about some pictures of those retro lights you have?? I'd like to see them both off and with the amber lights on, would be nice.
Posted by greenbarn
- July 12, 2016, 10:52:46 AM1157, 2357, 198 -- all the same base; all fit the same socket.
2357 is about 20% brighter than 1157 on the brake element. Unfortunately, life is only about 400 hours vs 1000 ( or something like that - can't remember for sure)
198 is a more heavy duty version than the 1157, but I think it's the same lumens as the 1157 (I'm not positive on the 198 info) I think the 198 bulb is the "OEM" bulb for a lot of bikes, and used in trucks and trailers. I think the base construction, filaments, etc are more 'robust'.
ZOAR: How about some pictures of those retro lights you have?? I'd like to see them both off and with the amber lights on, would be nice.
Posted by Zoar
- July 12, 2016, 10:18:43 AMQuote from: Pete on July 09, 2016, 01:04:39 AMActually, I put in an 1157 AMBER colored bulb. With my RETRO rear turn signals and smoked out RED rear brake light lens it looks very very very cool. It looks like what one would think a 1939 Indian light set-up would like from the rear IF they had turn signals back then.I believe that the 1157 defines the fitting (and is also known as the 108 if my memory hasn't failed). The European 1157 is 5/21 Watt, but the US standard bulb seems to be a higher wattage 8/26 Watt although I think brighter bulbs are available in the US.
Next time I go to the States I'm bringing a box back to the UK.
Posted by Pete
- July 09, 2016, 01:04:39 AMI believe that the 1157 defines the fitting (and is also known as the 108 if my memory hasn't failed). The European 1157 is 5/21 Watt, but the US standard bulb seems to be a higher wattage 8/26 Watt although I think brighter bulbs are available in the US.
Next time I go to the States I'm bringing a box back to the UK.
Posted by CDNRatMan
- June 30, 2016, 12:11:39 PMZoar and Pilgrim at the event will add so much life to the party and they would be so cool to hang out with......
Posted by CDNRatMan
- June 30, 2016, 11:50:58 AM 
if we hound and shame him into it he will have to go to defend his honour........
Posted by greenbarn
- June 29, 2016, 23:33:28 PMPilgrim is coming to Wisconsin? I do hope so...
Posted by CDNRatMan
- June 29, 2016, 10:24:54 AMZoar, when you are in WI you will met some of the coolest people. Even Pilgrim is pretty cool and fun to be with. Looking forward to seeing him and you there........
Posted by Pilgrim
- June 29, 2016, 09:55:45 AMAwesome..glad you got it figured out.
Posted by Zoar
- June 29, 2016, 09:18:42 AMQuote from: greenbarn on June 28, 2016, 17:02:54 PMIndeed, these BOTH work. I bought the 2357 before I read this post. Too bright. So I went back and bought an 1157. Works great!On the LED bulbs-- I don't think the brake/tail light NEEDS to be wired with a load balancer to work -- just the turn signals would need to be. So if it's the brake light we're talking about a 1157 or LED 1157 would interchange.
A 2357 is also the same base as the 1157 but somewhat brighter.
The 1157 bulb is about the most common light bulb in the auto industry.
Why does Kawasaki list a bulb NO ONE CAN FIND on all their online listings for this light and in all internet searches... And why do the searches performed by various motorcycle and automotive stores NOT show this easy to find bulb?
This is idiotic.
On the other hand, I love this forum! The information here is valuable and helpful and saves time and money!
Thank you, all!!!!
Posted by Troll
- June 28, 2016, 18:28:58 PMWal mart has all the bulbs you need, except for the 25 watt H-3s....1157/2057 same thing, slightly different wattage...Standard automotive bulb since inception of 12v electrics, until they came out with the wedge bulbs...
Posted by greenbarn
- June 28, 2016, 17:02:54 PMOn the LED bulbs-- I don't think the brake/tail light NEEDS to be wired with a load balancer to work -- just the turn signals would need to be. So if it's the brake light we're talking about a 1157 or LED 1157 would interchange.
A 2357 is also the same base as the 1157 but somewhat brighter.
The 1157 bulb is about the most common light bulb in the auto industry.
Posted by CDNRatMan
- June 28, 2016, 15:56:05 PMyour both right if it was wired in with a different socket, then perhaps an 1157 will not work. I have the same socket as stock and my LED is plug and play and has the offset knobs like an 1157 bulb......
Posted by pcarrell
- June 28, 2016, 14:34:12 PMThe 1157 bulb is the stock bulb, but if the system has been changed over to LED's, complete with a load balancer, then the 1157 won't work.