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Posted by Fink
- June 11, 2016, 22:55:52 PMLast year had the tires replaced with Metzlers. Had the tires spin balanced 3 times by two different shops. Took it to a Kawasaki dealer where I had the front forks re-done with rear progressive shock. This year I had the chain and two sprockets done at a 3rd different shop and the rear fender still continues do bounce up and down. I told them to check everything out. My fenders and handlebars bounce up and down. Especially my rear fender bounces going down the road. Love the looks of the bike but I am in to it more than I paid for it. It has had this bounce from day one. Its for sale if anyone is interested.
Posted by CDNRatMan
- November 16, 2015, 15:25:10 PM I don't want to get off the topic here, but I used Counter balance beads last year and found them to be really good. After reading about the moisture I sent the company an email and here is their response.
Hi Andy, Dyna Beads and Counteract are similar yet different products. Dyna Beads has caused a wide range of issues inside tires, mainly because they are ceramic beads and free flowing, meaning they constantly have to rebalance when you come to a stop and start again, causing Dyna Beads to bang off the rim constantly breaking the beads into pieces. The ceramic beads tend to break apart inside the tire and actually start to deteriorate the inside of the tire.
Counteract, we are a tempered glass bead and due to our patents our product does not need to re-balance when starting and stopping. Once it find the original out-of-balance position they stay there and only move when they experience vibrations and need too. In over 20 million applications we have never cause an issue inside a tire and have never voided a tire warranty. You do not have to worry too much about moisture and Counteract. Our beads are coated in a special coating that resists moisture (every tire accumulates moisture inside) the special coating we apply to them allows Counteract to not be affected by moisture inside tires, therefore they will not clump, although it is a good idea to clear your air line of moisture regardless. The only reason they could clump is if there is a ton of bead lube dropped into the tire while they are being mounted, although this rarely happens.
We are not the same as Dyna Beads. You will not have these issues using Counteract.
Hope this clears up one issue. Now to figure out why the fenders are bouncing around......
Posted by Troll
- November 16, 2015, 09:16:52 AMAll I have to say about DynaBeads is that Motorcycle Consumer News was less than impressed with them.
Posted by joe nash
- November 16, 2015, 08:06:13 AMWater will not evaporate, If your tire is not
leaking air the dampness will never get out.
did you ever try to wipe the dampness out of a plastic bag? Next to impossible
Been riding for over 50 years, I'm impressed with the dyna beads, just that water will make them stick and not roll around.
If in doubt last resort change the tubes.
MUST HAVE A DRY AIR SUPPLY!
Posted by CDNRatMan
- November 15, 2015, 18:22:28 PMGood answer but would the water not dry up over time?
Posted by joe nash
- November 15, 2015, 15:51:03 PMWET DYNA BEADS, WATER IN AIR SUPLY WILL GET YOU. jOE NASH
Posted by kw-retrorider
- October 14, 2015, 13:12:19 PMFink: Agree with Greenbarn....hang in there. It should be smooth running. I have the same 2002 and it doesn't bounce.
I have stock never been changed fork oil and springs as well as original monoshock. I am just starting to feel the tight spot in the chain consistently, but I have almost 24k miles on the bike.....and even the tight spot is not a bounce...it's more of an uneven surge when you decelerate.
So, it shouldn't "bounce"....Even though you covered this, I say tires and wheel balance....there can be so much variation, even with name brands.
We'll keep scratching our heads...keep us posted.
Posted by pcarrell
- October 14, 2015, 07:53:59 AMQuote from: 49Reo on October 13, 2015, 22:37:36 PMBANG!!!Now I'll go out on a limb here, and hope no one shoots me out of the tree.
Posted by 49Reo
- October 13, 2015, 22:37:36 PMNow I'll go out on a limb here, and hope no one shoots me out of the tree. Have you made SURE that the engine is running correctly? A cylinder missing for any number of reasons will cause an unholy shake on a 2 cylinder bike, even one cylinder not firing full power. Maybe that needs looking at too. Just sayin'.....
Posted by greenbarn
- October 13, 2015, 21:16:26 PMQuote from: pcarrell on October 13, 2015, 18:28:01 PMSOunds to me, from Fink's initial description, that the whole bike is bouncing/shaking. I'm inclined to agree with Troll to think maybe it's the chain.How would that effect the front wheel?
Raise the back wheel, and turn it by hand to see if there are any tight spots in the chain, for one.
Could be a bad tire, too. DO you know if the problem started before or after the new tires??
I put Shinko 777's on mine, and regret it. There is evidently an out-of round tire on mine. If these tires were truly spin-balanced, they should have seen (and pointed out) any out of round or bent conditions with the tires/wheels (especially if you pointed out you have a problem like this). But, wouldnt' hurt to turn both the front and rear wheel on the bike to check.
Hang in there- we'll figure this one out. That should be a smooth running bike.
Posted by CDNRatMan
- October 13, 2015, 19:40:51 PMat this point I am not sure but it just might be a feel thing.
Posted by pcarrell
- October 13, 2015, 18:28:01 PMHow would that effect the front wheel?
Posted by CDNRatMan
- October 13, 2015, 17:44:06 PMOk so you are saying it could be something simple as a stiff or tight spot on the chain. So Fink what type of chain and how old is it?
Posted by Troll
- October 13, 2015, 12:10:02 PMThere are many possibilities with wire wheels. With no mileage on this bike to speak of, it's hard to point at any one thing, especially wheel related. Radial and axial run out need to be checked, but there is one thing that most people never think of with "modern" o ring chains...They develop stiff spots that cannot be lubricated. Chains in use get them, so why not one that sat, unmoved for a long (years, apparently) time? I have no problem with chain drive bikes, in general, but I would never replace an o ring chain with another o ring chain because of the inability to lube them correctly.
Posted by pcarrell
- October 13, 2015, 11:19:51 AMCould the rims be out of true?