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Posted by Troll
- October 01, 2015, 12:20:45 PMSooooo, it's finally here, in my hands. Took a lot longer to get than I had expected. Shipped from Minneapolis on Monday, arrived at the shop on Wed. (I could have gone up there and gotten it in 6 hours)....Wisconsin has recently done away with their 48 hour waiting period for handgun purchases, the "instant" background check is supposed to be enough. So I filled out all the forms (the last time I bought a handgun was 25 years ago..all I had to do was pay for it and wait 48 hours before I could pick it up). At 1:00 the counter guy calls in my information. They say they will call him back, shortly...yeah, bull$hit. They called back this morning about 10 am...he calls me, and I go to get it, fill out more paperwork, and now I have it. Glad this wasn't a gun show purchase, I would still be waiting for the "instant" background check! So some pictures: remember, this is chambered for .45 Colt and .410 shotgun. I picked up a small sampling of different kinds of defense ammo designed for it. Regular shotgun and pistol ammo is not optimized for the Judge, so I decided to make sure I was getting the most out of the piece. The videos I posted were done with the same model, with 2" barrel that I bought, except he opted for the stainless model....That PDX-1 stuff looks quite interesting. I hope to get a chance to test fire it on the weekend...
Posted by Troll
- September 25, 2015, 08:58:20 AMPictures soon. Still waiting for the call to come and pick it up...Found a 20 rnd combo pack from Remington with .45 lc half jacket hollow points and 000 Buck shot .410s designed for the Judge and the S&W Governor...and it has a $5 mail in rebate...Wife says "How much ammunition do you need" I say, we have to practice with new weapon and still have some left for it's purpose, so probably a lot! I found a neat youtube video with a guy testing various loads in the same model I bought. his conclusions make sense...maybe the 4 000 buck loads are a better choice than the 3 disk/12 bb loads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNVXuspaJtE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDMDd4eAQO0
Posted by Old Drifter
- September 24, 2015, 20:48:00 PMCongrats on your new weapon! Remember, they're like potato chips...you must have more than one. 
Posted by Troll
- September 24, 2015, 08:11:56 AMI went around last night, looking for the PDX410 shotgun loads, and bought 1 box of 10...When I got home I dug out a box under my work bench that I thought had some 215 gr .45 L.C.... All it had was a box of once fired cases, and 200 rnds of .44 mag and 100 .45 auto. I'm going to ask the people at the gun store if they want to give me something for the stuff I already had. they are also a pawn shop, so maybe...
Posted by 49Reo
- September 23, 2015, 23:17:16 PMNothing makes me smile...like getting a new gun!!!. Congrats on it. We can't have anything under 4 1/2" up here in Canukistan...... 
Posted by greenbarn
- September 23, 2015, 22:25:46 PMCongratulations, it's always nice getting a new gun.
Posted by Troll
- September 23, 2015, 12:44:55 PM Ok, then I "pulled the trigger" on the deal. The second place I went had given me a price of $439.00. I printed off the Spec sheet from Taurus, and called Cabelas this morning. I had them check inventory and they claimed they had one in stock. I almost went down there, this morning, but decided to check with the gun shop that had given me the better price. Just for the hell of it, I took my Llama .45 with me. He checked the spec sheet against his supplier, and found they had 2 in stock that were the exact model number I was looking for.
I asked him if he was interested in a partial payment with the Llama...I paid $210 for it more than 20 years ago, and although it's been all over the country, it still is basically "new"....Bottom line, The new Judge I wanted cost me my Llama and $39. Since I was planning to carry the Judge instead, anyway, there was no real reason to keep the .45, but 400 reasons to send it down the road. By the way, the M.S.R.P. on the Judge is $607.00. They expect it to arrive by Monday, next.
Posted by Troll
- September 23, 2015, 07:52:00 AMVery interesting. Laws being what they are, varying so much from state to state, you'd think with such a big "hunting" population in Wisconsin, there would be more choices. There are very few place, at least within 100 miles of me, to buy a firearm...
Posted by DC
- September 23, 2015, 00:49:26 AMQuote from: Troll on September 20, 2015, 21:21:59 PMI have two Cabellas in my region and I find they are usually higher priced than buying something on Gunbroker. Plus, they seem to be at the back of the line when things are back ordered. When I was looking for my FN Five-seveN, they told me it would be an infinite wait for one, as it was heavily back ordered at the time. I went on Gunbroker and had my pick of brand new Five-seveNs, and at prices beating Cabellas.That's what I figured. I went over to Gander Mountain today and handled one. The price they want for the public defender model w/2" barrel is $100 more than Cabela's for the same gun. I would have to ride about 55 miles to the closest Cabela's to get one. Sounds like a deal breaker...not!..I was looking at the 2 1/2" disc/shot ammo they had on the shelf...They didn't have any .45 LC, but I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart does....Now to get the money together....
Posted by Troll
- September 22, 2015, 10:19:58 AMBeen poking around and found that there are quite a few choices, now in addition to "normal" 410 shotgun shells: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/20-rounds-of-hornady-critical-defense-410-triple-defense-ammo?a=1154048
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/06/daniel-zimmerman/p320-entry-410-pistol-ammo-showdown/
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2900393924/winchester-pdx1-defender-ammunition-410-bore-2-1-2-3-disks-over-1-4-oz-bb-shot
http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/shotshell.aspx?id=912
Posted by Troll
- September 22, 2015, 10:06:21 AMQuote from: 49Reo on September 21, 2015, 21:51:32 PMRemember.....it ain't real without pics, lol....
Don't own it yet. Rest assured, I will post pics when I have it in hand!
Posted by Troll
- September 22, 2015, 10:05:09 AMQuote from: gdrudd13 on September 22, 2015, 07:47:48 AMThe part about cylinders not indexing happens on all revolvers, not just Taurus. I've seen Taurus, S&W, Colt, all of them not index well or have a sloppy cylinder. before you buy just make sure to pull the hammer back and go through every chamber. Everything should line up, and with the hammer back there should be no slop, or very very little. Never Heard of it accepting 45 S&W, or an adapter for 45 acp, but I've never really looked into it. From my experience, the 45 colt loads will be superior to the 45 acp if loaded with a good hollow point (Hornady makes a good one that I use in my hand loads). Tends to be a slightly heavier bullet with a slightly higher muzzle velocity. But they are more expensive, so practicing gets pricey.
What I read was that it wasn't just not indexing perfectly, but getting stuck about half way. I've had quite a few Rugers and never had any problem like that. In all fairness, it was just one online comment, so I was just checking around. I research EVERYTHING...Spoke to a guy at one of the gun stores who has one and is quite pleased with the overall performance, but he has one with the 4" barrel. I'm not looking for a target arm, but rather one more like my pocket camera...point and shoot. A heavy load in the .45 LC sounds like a good idea, until you look at where I might be needing it ...in a city scenario, over penetration is a real issue.
Posted by gdrudd13
- September 22, 2015, 07:47:48 AMThe part about cylinders not indexing happens on all revolvers, not just Taurus. I've seen Taurus, S&W, Colt, all of them not index well or have a sloppy cylinder. before you buy just make sure to pull the hammer back and go through every chamber. Everything should line up, and with the hammer back there should be no slop, or very very little. Never Heard of it accepting 45 S&W, or an adapter for 45 acp, but I've never really looked into it. From my experience, the 45 colt loads will be superior to the 45 acp if loaded with a good hollow point (Hornady makes a good one that I use in my hand loads). Tends to be a slightly heavier bullet with a slightly higher muzzle velocity. But they are more expensive, so practicing gets pricey.
Posted by 49Reo
- September 21, 2015, 21:51:32 PMRemember.....it ain't real without pics, lol.... 
Posted by Troll
- September 21, 2015, 21:12:13 PMI had a friend in Alaska who told me everybody is REQUIRED to carry....Been checking prices, and with the exception of Gander Mountain ($530), everybody is within $5 of each other..going price seems be $440. I have a couple more places to check, tomorrow.