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Posted by pcarrell
- June 11, 2015, 08:11:45 AMQuote from: Drifter1500 on June 11, 2015, 05:20:22 AMYou know what? I stand corrected! I was basing what I said off of a friends 2000 Drifter, but I asked him about it and he said that he took a 2001 part and stripped it and had it repainted, so the part I thought was stock, wasn't. Sorry, I didn't mean to mislead! ***Next time, I'll do more homework!***The left engine cover on my 00 is just like the 99 cover, and is matte silver. also the shop manual shows that they are the same.
Posted by Donkey
- June 11, 2015, 06:55:18 AMQuote from: Drifter1500 on June 11, 2015, 05:20:22 AMYes, the right side cover is black too... That's actually the one with the oil cap in the pic above. The only matte silver I have is the valve covers...The left engine cover on my 00 is just like the 99 cover, and is matte silver. also the shop manual shows that they are the same.
I to have never seen nor heard about any covers being painted black. Is the right side cover the same?
Posted by Drifter1500
- June 11, 2015, 05:20:22 AMQuote from: pcarrell on June 10, 2015, 14:21:25 PMThe left engine cover on my 00 is just like the 99 cover, and is matte silver. also the shop manual shows that they are the same.Donkey, I don't know about the Canadian / American thing (Except that the U.S. didn't get any 1999 Drifter 800's (only 1500's), while Canada did. Both got the 800 for the 2000 model year), but all the '99's and '00's had the black painted engine parts with the matte silver parts. They did this, along with all of the other blackout parts, to try and really capture the 1940's Indian look, but customers in the showrooms wanted chromed out bikes, so in 2001 Ma Kawi gave them what they wanted. Now the blackout bikes are highly prized by some. As for the differences, the 1999 left lower side engine cover was different from the 2000 cover as well (the cover down by the floorboard and shifter). The 1999 lower left cover was sort of a half cover, and a 1 year only part, and the 2000 cover was like the 2001+ cover, only it was also matte silver, making it a 1 year only part as well. Starting in 2001 and through the rest of the model run, all the lower left engine covers were like the 2000 cover except they were chromed. This is my 2001, so you can see the difference between yours and mine.
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I to have never seen nor heard about any covers being painted black. Is the right side cover the same?
Posted by CDNRatMan
- June 10, 2015, 22:01:00 PMI am not a 700 specialist you would have to ask GB if tat works he is a smart lad and will figure it out for you.......
Posted by Donkey
- June 10, 2015, 21:08:59 PMQuote from: CDNRatMan on June 10, 2015, 19:46:39 PMI meant to but I only have 705 and 715 handy. If I mix them together, will that work?So did you add the 710 to top up the bike?
Posted by CDNRatMan
- June 10, 2015, 19:46:39 PMSo did you add the 710 to top up the bike?
Posted by Donkey
- June 10, 2015, 18:55:16 PMWhat's funniest, PC, is that all this is because it stood out to me where you said "I'd hang on to all of the matte silver motor pieces from the Drifter as those are only available for the first 2 years of the Drifter, so they are quite unique"...
Posted by Donkey
- June 10, 2015, 18:34:32 PMI read a lot of the info and posts about the numbers and remember that they may be code and not necessarily sequential, disappointingly by design, so that Kawi could keep their numbers secret. I also remember reading the thread about decoding VIN's, but most of the info started after '00... otherwise I'd love to know if the sequence means anything.
Oh, and I remember seeing that there were only 600 CDN Drifter 1500's, but my number is 003447, which tells me they are either not sequential or there is an extra number in there and nobody knows which one or what it means. If those last 6 numbers means anything to anyone I'd love to hear it!
Now, I'm no expert by any means but I'm pretty analytical... and in this pic I see a very thick coating, much too thick to be paint or powder. The way it's chipping tells me it's original... there is no leading paint edge or silver matte underneath. No layers. The oil capcity sticker is too straight, too naturally aged to have been removed and replaced. It was not taped or painted/powdered around.
Just my thoughts... others very welcome! Sorry, we're in the middle of a tornado watch so the lighting is terrible.
Posted by pcarrell
- June 10, 2015, 18:06:38 PMThe color might have something to do with the final shipping destination, but more likely either yours has been painted, or maybe as the line began to switch over to the 2000 model a change was made. Do you know the assembly number of your bike? Was it an early, or late one off the line? That would maybe answer the question. Maybe some of our other members could help us out with those numbers to figure out what constitutes later in the model run.
Posted by Donkey
- June 10, 2015, 17:52:15 PMWell that's cool. I just did a Google image search and Bing image search and didn't find one with a black primary case. I had no idea. Seems clear to me mine isn't painted but I like to know stuff like this for sure.
Posted by Donkey
- June 10, 2015, 17:21:06 PMNever really compared the left side either... Wow. Yours is way more what I'm used to on a 1500... I didn't even realize this is what I have! I'm so used to taking pics from the high side (and the bike still so new to me) I never realized it!
Sorry the pic is upside down and backwards... Bike is tight in the garage and I was leaned over it and the phone keeps flipping the pic when I post it!
Posted by Donkey
- June 10, 2015, 16:50:50 PMCool... That helps explain why my tranny case is black, but now if you had to guess, knowing what you know, how did our Australian friend above get a silver matte tranny case?
Experimental runs? It was still '99 for both his and mine, seems confusing that some tranny cases were different than others in the first year!
(For what it's worth, I'm perfectly fine with black... I'm just trying to be sure that this is the way it came, hasn't been changed, whether it's a CDN or US bike, and natural curiosity on the matte silver!)
Posted by pcarrell
- June 10, 2015, 14:21:25 PMDonkey, I don't know about the Canadian / American thing (Except that the U.S. didn't get any 1999 Drifter 800's (only 1500's), while Canada did. Both got the 800 for the 2000 model year), but all the '99's and '00's had the black painted engine parts with the matte silver parts. They did this, along with all of the other blackout parts, to try and really capture the 1940's Indian look, but customers in the showrooms wanted chromed out bikes, so in 2001 Ma Kawi gave them what they wanted. Now the blackout bikes are highly prized by some. As for the differences, the 1999 & 2000 left lower side engine cover was different from the 2001 cover (the cover down by the floorboard and shifter). The 1999 & 2000 lower left cover was sort of a half cover, and a 2 year only part. Starting in 2001 and through the rest of the model run, all the lower left engine covers were a full cover, and they were chromed. This is my 2001, so you can see the difference between yours and mine. ***EDITED***
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Posted by Donkey
- June 10, 2015, 12:59:49 PMQuote from: pcarrell on May 14, 2014, 08:14:40 AMGuess it doesn't matter if I hijack he thread at this point, so I'll ask... Any idea why and how it was determined which '99's got the matte silver engine parts? U.S./Canada? There were so few made overall just wondering if there is any magic to figuring out the diff.I'd hang on to all of the matte silver motor pieces from the Drifter as those are only available for the first 2 years of the Drifter, so they are quite unique.
Part of me asks because though the buyer trail on mine indicates it's always been in Canada, is there any way of knowing for sure it was intended to be a CDN model?
Posted by pcarrell
- June 09, 2015, 08:35:02 AMIt seems that the OP is no longer a member. He must have gotten his info and quit.