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This is a fairly complicated circuit. I looked at my service manual, and I think the problem might be the starter lock out switch. I have an '01, so there might be a different name for it on the '99. As far as not being able to get to 2nd gear with the bike not moving, this is the positive neutral finder doing it's job. One might wonder why you'd need to get to 2nd with the engine not running, but we had an incident this past summer with one of our ninja training bikes, (key left on over night) and it sure would have been nice to be able to shift into second, or third, to bump start it with an almost dead battery....The side stand switch cuts the ignition if the stand is deployed while in gear, and the lock out switch keeps the starter from turning  if the trans is in gear with the engine running. It's bypassed by the clutch switch, but the charging system has an input into the circuit to prevent the starter from running if the engine is. This saves on starter and starter drive components. Saved me more than once while I was making the transition from H-Ds to the Kaw....(hint, H-Ds have a turn signal switch on each side, so canceling the right signal.......) ???

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Posted by chief

- January 12, 2011, 14:04:41 PM

Bike should start in neutral without depressing clutch.

When you start the bike, and it is in neutral, what happens when you release the clutch (still in neutral) ... do it slowly in case the bike really isn't in neutral.

Posted by Varooom

- January 12, 2011, 10:03:37 AM

Bleed the clutch lever line; might have air in it which limits its intended travel, not fully disengaging the plates.
Varooom

Posted by chief

- January 09, 2011, 19:49:20 PM

You will be able to shift into any gear in sequence with the clutch engaged. With the engine running you can shift into any gear, but you obviously will kill the engine if the revs are too low when you release the clutch.

Posted by rawv

- January 09, 2011, 11:41:19 AM

Maybe I'm missing something here but why would you be shifting to 2nd gear from a dead stop..to me that just makes the clutch work harder

Posted by Bill

- January 08, 2011, 23:40:01 PM

Bill here iI have a 02 1500 and some times my ligt will be on but i am in gear so when i put my kick stand down my engine shuts off. I also believe don't trust the light

Posted by harley

- October 12, 2010, 07:52:46 AM

it is a 99 it is in nuet and the light is on maybe its a 3 way switch the light part works but the start interupt doesnt,so glad to hear its normal not to shift into 2nd form start thought I screwd up the shift barrel or something

Posted by chief

- October 11, 2010, 10:57:49 AM

As has been indicated... make sure its really in neutral.

Then start checking the various switches... the clutch switch and kickstand switch for example. Seems to me I had a similar problem once and it was a loose clutch switch connection.

Posted by scwilli

- October 11, 2010, 09:07:59 AM

Not sure what year you have, but my 99 will not shift into 2nd unless I'm rolling.

For the clutch, you might make sure you are in neutral. Ive always been told to not trust the light, and sometimes it has been wrong on my bike.

Posted by harley

- October 10, 2010, 20:36:05 PM

my nuetral lamp is on its in nuetral but i have to pull the clutch to start most of the time,and is it normal to only get the bike to go in first from nuetral it will not go in 2nd unless im rolling in first?

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