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Posted by LarryInSeattle
 - February 06, 2015, 21:41:41 PM

I have used this manufactured gas in my blower and string trimmer for the last few years.  Not this brand, but similar, as I buy the "pre-mixed" blend.  I use so little of this stuff, that I like the fact that this stuff is stabilized for a long time.  No worries about it gumming up my carbs.

I probably should see how my bike runs on this stuff, but I know that it should get me to the next refill station.... that is all that I am worried about.  They way it works out.... someone else might be trying this stuff in their motorcycle before I do..... as running out of gas is something that happens out there to people who don't plan very well.  :)

Posted by greenbarn
 - February 06, 2015, 21:16:03 PM

That sounds like a good idea....  that is, dumping the fake stuff with the remaining gallon in reserve, so that it has a better chance to burn.   As long as it DOES burn....     I added about a gallon of "gas" from my gas can at home once to the 800, thinking I needed a little to make sure I got into town.   Had a terrible time with it running - died at stops, barely ran, had to leave the choke on......   Found out someone (could have been me) put diesel in my gas can....     Had to drain the tank... :(

Posted by LarryInSeattle
 - February 05, 2015, 23:33:35 PM
Quote from: greenbarn on February 05, 2015, 19:21:40 PM

Larry, have you ever tried the Magic Tank stuff before?   There is something about "non-flammable" based gas substitute that casts a doubt to how well it works.  The Amazon reviews are kind of mixed, too.   Makes you wonder if you should purposefully let the bike run out of gas (like in the drive way) and see if it will start up on this stuff.   But that makes for an expensive experiment, as well - $40 shipped - WOW, that's $80 per gallon...

No, to be honest about it.... I bought a half gallon and put it in my trailer.  I usually travel with a GPS and use the reserve as a notice of fuel shortage.  If I was ever in the situation where I hit reserve, I would check my GPS and decide if I was going to need additional mileage and if so, I would immediately add the 1 quart container of the regular gas.... and if the mileage looked bleak, I would add the 1/2 gallon of manufactured fuel.  I don't think I would trust trying to start and run on this stuff alone.  A mixture of regular gas and this stuff would be my answer.

If I came along a biker on the side of the road and out of gas...... I would offer the 1/2 gallon of the fuel at my purchase cost.  If they didn't want to buy it, no worries.  I would just move on.  I have given away my quart bottle of gas in that situation which allowed them enough to get to the next town.  10 miles is good.... lol

Posted by Troll
 - February 05, 2015, 19:41:20 PM

This is exactly why I fiddled with the computer settings via the sensor inputs...now I'm averaging 45 mpg....and as high as 52 at times.

Posted by greenbarn
 - February 05, 2015, 19:21:40 PM

Larry, have you ever tried the Magic Tank stuff before?   There is something about "non-flammable" based gas substitute that casts a doubt to how well it works.  The Amazon reviews are kind of mixed, too.   Makes you wonder if you should purposefully let the bike run out of gas (like in the drive way) and see if it will start up on this stuff.   But that makes for an expensive experiment, as well - $40 shipped - WOW, that's $80 per gallon...

Posted by LarryInSeattle
 - February 05, 2015, 13:23:48 PM

I have similar issues with the Drifter as far as fuel capacity goes.  I tote  a trailer, so it does cut into the distance between fillings.  To compensate for it, I carry 2 quart fuel containers filled with high octane gas as well as a 1/2 gallon (always in the trailer) of stabilized non petro based fuel.... see picture and link.  I target 100 mile fill ups, but I really miss my 225 mile per fill up range on my Goldwing.

http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Tank-Emergency-Fuel-Half-Gallon/dp/B00GT0N7ZA/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1423163839&sr=8-13&keywords=spare+gas

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - February 05, 2015, 11:10:42 AM

  That has been done.....saw it on Pawn Stars...

Posted by greenbarn
 - February 05, 2015, 10:31:44 AM
Quote from: CDNRatMan on February 05, 2015, 09:58:49 AM

......2 liter soad bottle and we are ok....

Or, just fill your tires up with fuel.  All that air is just wasted space, and the extra rolling weight should help the gas mileage.....   :o
Posted by CDNRatMan
 - February 05, 2015, 09:58:49 AM

  I looked at that one place in the US that did that work or mod, they are not doing it anymore, and they wanted you to ship your tank to them, so you would be tankless for about 4 months they claim, then it was $2000.00 for the work, and that did not include the repainting of the tank. Think it was 2 more gals they would have added to the tank so in my mind really not worth it.......2 liter soad bottle and we are ok....

Posted by John Hopkins
 - February 05, 2015, 06:43:24 AM

If you want to spend money there are people out there who can cut your tank in half and fit a four inch strip down the centre.. It will cost a fortune, carrying more fuel will increase the weight, and slightly reduce the mileage and I still think you would be better off just filling up at 60 miles or carry a gallon can in the sidecar.

John.

Posted by greenbarn
 - February 04, 2015, 21:39:03 PM

Who needs a pump?  Can't she just hold onto the jerry can and funnel, and then just pour it into the bike when it runs low?? 

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - February 04, 2015, 21:01:30 PM

    :o you can do what GB would do .......put the missus into the sidecar and have her use a hand pump and pump the fuel over to the main tank.....lol.....

yes GB and say you did not think of that idea yet.......

Posted by John Hopkins
 - February 04, 2015, 20:39:08 PM

You could do what I do, Just fill up at sixty miles and don't worry about trying to squeeze the last drop out.

John.

Posted by greenbarn
 - February 04, 2015, 18:01:49 PM

Alternatively to using a fuel pump compatible with the bikes FI, you could just use a transfer fuel pump to transfer the fuel to the main tank.   Probably require having an additional line to the bike's tank, and maybe a valve....

Posted by Troll
 - February 04, 2015, 17:56:14 PM

    Sounds about right for a hack rig....Depending on the way the hack is designed, you might be able to put an aux. fuel cell behind the seat, but remember, you need to have a way to transfer the fuel. The injection system makes this a problem, unless you have a fuel cell with a compatible fuel pump in it.  Sounds like an interesting engineering problem.

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