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Posted by chief
 - November 21, 2014, 12:15:27 PM

Phonics has been around since ...ahhh... me! I was in a class of the first kids to be exposed to it. But it was for reading, not for spelling! I learned how to sound out words, find root words and get an understanding of what the word meant. But we still had to spell the word properly.

I'm an engineer and a business owner. I have had to "write" and read reports for most of my life. In a technical report or business letter, spelling and grammar has a real impact. Maybe its just me, but I gauge the professionalism of the "reporter" by his/her written grammar and spelling. Those are different from informal writings like this... but we should know how to do both.
Have you paid attention to the phrasing and sentence structures of 19th century writers (professional and domestic)?  They took time and paid attention to their communications. We have email!
Being ignorant and lazy is a sure path to slavery.
Posted by 49Reo
 - November 21, 2014, 09:55:33 AM
Quote from: Troll on November 20, 2014, 13:25:48 PM

You are right about not listening, at least to the "normal" people who use their products...they took too much stock in the opinions of those "Millennials" who have their "smatrphones" virtually as an implant. This is a true cautionary tale: One of my grandchildren stopped by to talk to Grandma, during the week. She was at work, so I told him to call her, and pointed to my normal desk phone with the buttons....He couldn't figure out how to use it...now I hear they are not teaching kids how to read a clock face in school anymore, or cursive handwriting!!!!!!!

I don't know about the u.s., but up here correct spelling is not required anymore in schools; "phonetics" is the new rave. Plus, thats what spell-check is for....
Posted by Troll
 - November 21, 2014, 09:34:05 AM

The farther we get from the education all of us "old" people got in school, the worse it gets. I'm afraid I have to agree about the way things are going. The "third world" is doing what we should be doing, and we are becoming them...a role reversal that will take many generations to correct, if we even can correct it...

Posted by John Hopkins
 - November 20, 2014, 21:06:54 PM
Quote from: Troll on November 20, 2014, 13:25:48 PM

One of my grandchildren stopped by to talk to Grandma, during the week. She was at work, so I told him to call her, and pointed to my normal desk phone with the buttons....He couldn't figure out how to use it...now I hear they are not teaching kids how to read a clock face in school anymore, or cursive handwriting!!!!!!!

I think we are going to lose a generation or two before we start to learn that basic education and mental arithmetic is important..unfortunately the Chinese are soaking it up like sponges and will soon leave us behind..The worst thing about it is that the one or two generations of our badly educated children will be the teachers of tomorrow..

John.

Posted by Troll
 - November 20, 2014, 13:25:48 PM

You are right about not listening, at least to the "normal" people who use their products...they took too much stock in the opinions of those "Millennials" who have their "smatrphones" virtually as an implant. This is a true cautionary tale: One of my grandchildren stopped by to talk to Grandma, during the week. She was at work, so I told him to call her, and pointed to my normal desk phone with the buttons....He couldn't figure out how to use it...now I hear they are not teaching kids how to read a clock face in school anymore, or cursive handwriting!!!!!!!

Posted by chief
 - November 20, 2014, 11:36:40 AM
Quote from: moosewing3 on November 18, 2014, 20:28:31 PM

I actually like 8.1 other than it's a little quirky with Chrome. Does 10 run any better with Chrome?

I've used every windows since 3.0.   I don't mind 8.1, its certainly crashes less than previous versions, but there are some things I dislike. They made getting to the guts of the OS difficult. I find it really strange they'd saddle a PC with a tablet OS, which is what 8.0 was and 8.1 still is. I think MS decided not to listen to their customers... sorta like the government. And, its burned them. Too many people sticking with 7.

I'm looking forward to a good OS again. I almost bought an... APPLE... I started with a TI 99/4a... then an Apple IIc.
Posted by Troll
 - November 20, 2014, 09:21:17 AM

  That's a Win 7 theme I made for myself. Works in 10 just fine. You save it for "sharing" and put it somewhere you can easily find it, like on a flash drive. I'm running 10 in a dual boot configuration, but on a separate HDD so it doesn't mess with any of the 7 files. If you "upgrade" to 8.1 through the Win. Store (it's free) you can set the os to default to the desktop and then set up a partial start menu that sort of looks and works like that in 7 or Vista....They found of that MANY people didn't want their computers to look and work like a telephone, and that was the way they "fixed" it...Seems like they learned their lesson, so far, anyway

Posted by gdrudd13
 - November 19, 2014, 16:12:51 PM

nice background. I like that it has a start menu. I never like the interface for windows 8 although I can see how it would be nice for people who really use a laptop for basic purposes. Trying to do anything more and it seemed very clunky and time consuming. That could partly be due to my inexperience with it, but it was enough of a pain it became no longer a viable option as an OS for me.

Posted by Troll
 - November 19, 2014, 15:43:30 PM

Here's a screen capture of the desk top and the new start menu

Posted by Troll
 - November 19, 2014, 08:01:30 AM

So far, everything works in 10 like it did in 7, and even some stuff I had from XP works the same way...I've been throwing every piece of software at it that I have, and the only thing that wouldn't work is an image stitching program from Win 3.1

Posted by moosewing3
 - November 18, 2014, 20:28:31 PM

I actually like 8.1 other than it's a little quirky with Chrome. Does 10 run any better with Chrome?

Posted by 49Reo
 - November 18, 2014, 19:10:09 PM

When I updated my laptop to Windows 7, it came with 2 licenses; but I like XP, so still haven't upgraded my desktop.....never do today what can be put off .......lol Not even sure the license would still be valid since I bought it 2 years ago

Posted by Troll
 - November 18, 2014, 10:13:12 AM
Quote from: greenbarn on November 17, 2014, 21:05:49 PM

My laptop also runs Vista - hate it - The last one had XP, but it died....

Hey Troll, you have any good copies of Win7 you can sell??  As an upgrade to Vista, or fresh copy?

All copies of Windows, since XP have to be activated, and the hardware they are activated on is locked to that DVD license code at the Microsoft server level. Newegg has 32 and 64 bit retail versions of Win 7 for $99.99....I just ordered one for an upgrade.

Posted by greenbarn
 - November 17, 2014, 21:05:49 PM
Quote from: 49Reo on November 15, 2014, 23:38:01 PM

My desktop is running Windows XP, (don't laugh, I like it) my laptop started out as "Vista"....now THAT was a bad experience! I upgraded it to 7, like it much better. I still have one copy of 7 left, I really should install it on my desk top; then I would only have to remember one system.....for someone who made a living with computers before retiring 4 years ago, it is amazing how fast you fall out of touch.

My laptop also runs Vista - hate it - The last one had XP, but it died....

Hey Troll, you have any good copies of Win7 you can sell??  As an upgrade to Vista, or fresh copy?

Posted by Troll
 - November 17, 2014, 09:00:20 AM

They make hibernate  mode available for laptops/tablets by default, and not for desktops....I just got the new build, 9860 over night. Looks like it completely replaced what I had. Some new eye candy features showed up...

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