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Posted by Drift1
 - May 26, 2014, 20:52:59 PM

GB it's a tough call , being either way you have to spend some hard earned money and either way your taking a chance . It's like you once said , " Wish there was some place we could just go and sit on a bike to feel these things out . "

Now I may be incorrect here , but with the bars you would have to reroute the cables , correct ? If so , me personally would also go with new longer cables , as I don't like how the cables look without doing so . Just mop of course .

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - May 26, 2014, 11:46:32 AM

ah oh so 49 would have bars eh!.......

Posted by pcarrell
 - May 26, 2014, 09:35:15 AM

They can both be true since every rider is a different size with different arm length.  I'd probably go for the risers, while someone who's knuckles have callouses on them from dragging the ground would probably go for the bars.

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - May 26, 2014, 08:59:19 AM

   Well if I was you I would order them all and try them and then decide which I like better and then have some spar parts for my parts bin. easy answer to your problem.....

Posted by greenbarn
 - May 26, 2014, 08:25:53 AM

From Scootworks:
PhatRisers II™ by Scootworks- Now also available in BLACK and Show Chrome!! - These handlebar risers were created especially for Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic, 1500 Drifter, and Nomad (due to their longer steering head moments), and for 'vertically challenged' 800 Vulcan owners . Raises the bars 2.5" and pulls your grips back 3" closer to you.

Does anybody know what they are talking about "longer steering head moments"??

From Baron Nostalgia webpage:
Specially-designed bends, length and pullback relieve the stress and pain most riders suffer in the neck, shoulders and back
Thick-walled tubing reduces vibration to the riders hands
Bars provide additional leverage and a lower center of gravity that makes the bike easier to control and feel like it has lost a couple hundred pounds

Looks like Nostalgias put the bars 2" lower and 2.5" wider, while Phat's put them 2" higher and 3" closer - but of course the grip angle is different as well- which is better?  They can't both be right in their advertising...

Posted by greenbarn
 - May 26, 2014, 07:44:23 AM

That thought had occurred to me - Then maybe buy black risers for the 800...

But then I can't help thinking maybe all the aftermarket bars are longer for a reason, and maybe that option is better than the risers???

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - May 25, 2014, 22:54:38 PM

   Well not being the brightest light bulb in the pack, I might suggest that you take the time to take the risers from the 800 and put them on the 1500 and go for a nice long ride and see if the bars are then were you thought you wanted them, then it might save some money and save some heart burn trying to sort it out.......just a thought.

Posted by greenbarn
 - May 25, 2014, 22:35:03 PM

My 800 came with handlebar risers, I believe them to be Scootworks Phatrisers.  The riser is 4" tall and about 1" back.  (see pics below- yes the bike needs cleaned...)

I like the handle bar position a lot, and would like to make the 1500 something close to it, or better.  The 1500 appears to be original bars, no risers.  They are too far forward and down to suit me - I'm having to lean forward too far.

So my dilemma is - should I put PhatII risers on, or would I be better off putting new bars on - if I put new bars on, do I need risers too?

From what I gather, stock bars are 5" rise, 33.5" width, and 14" pullback.   SO, if I want bars to match the riser position, using the measurements on the risers,  seems like I'd need 8" rise, 33.5 width, 15" pullback.  But I realize that isn't exactly right because the risers are on an angle...

I've looked at Flanders Beach bars and  Beach Grand, Baron Nostalgia, Starbar,  and Big Jonson's,  and Burly Longhorn.   Most of them have LOWER rise than the stock bars, and all LONGER than the stock.   Anybody know if these positions are improvements over the stock, or Stock + Phatrisers?????   I'm tempted to go with the Baron Nostalgia, because they talk specifically about better positions and easier handling, etc.

Rise  Width   Pullback
Stock                               5      33.5      14.5
Baron Nostalgia                  3.5    36        14.5
Baron Big Johnson's             4      38        13.5
Baron Starbar                     4      36        12.5
Flanders Beach Bars            3.5    32/35    10.5
Flanders Beach Grand          4.5    38.5      17
Burly Longhorn                   7.5    39         17.25

Any help or suggestions??

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