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Posted by greenbarn
 - March 25, 2014, 20:49:57 PM

It's been so BLASTED LONG since I've ridden my bike, I've forgotten...  Does the engine have to actually run, or does just turning it over (cranking) bring the light on?  For some reason I was thinking if it doesn't start the first crank, and you let go of the starter button, the headlight comes on??   I could very easily be wrong on that - and I'm not going out to check it...    (right now it's about 20F with a wind chill of around 5F.   They're changing Ohio's nickname to "Little Canada"...)

Ratman, if it's just the "crank" signal you need, then just hit the starter button.   If it does actually have to run, well, then you have an old sweeper hose or something don't you??   Just run the exhaust out the window or door.... there you go!

Posted by Troll
 - March 25, 2014, 17:55:13 PM

The engine has to be running to turn on the headlight relay. Once the relay is on, it will stay that way until you cycle the key. The running lights come on with the ign. but the headlight doesn't.

Posted by 2beers
 - March 25, 2014, 15:45:49 PM

Not trying to step on Troll's answer, Ratman, but we believe you are correct. The high beam indicator will not illuminate without the bike running. Glad to hear you have a limit, btw!

Well, we have good news!  Blue's warning lights are back to being fully functional.  We did a happy dance in the garage, but forgot to video it lol.

Checking continuity on each segment with an ohm meter, we found a section interrupted between the oil pressure switch and harness side of the dash connection. Tracing the wire, we opened the left side cover above the tool box to reveal a mess of wires. One was not connected, guess which one?  Pic below.

After that, we lost power to the ignition circuit and the neutral light. There was some spousal discussion about lighting installation and circuitry and choices a certain husband makes, I admit it lol. Happy days were restored to the household when we found two blown fuses.

All is, once again, well!!!!

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - March 25, 2014, 15:17:17 PM

  Troll, I have a question now.
I do not profess to be a mechanic or even close to one so this might be a weak question. So there is 2 bulbs in the speedo housing, for simplicity sake one is the upper and then the lower, because that is were they sit in the housing.
You said

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but the power is from the high beam circuit. Sooo this mysterious "lower" bulb is actually working as designed.

So tonight I tried to see if there was power going to the plug, had a good ground, tester was showing power to a couple of the plug outlets. But none to the one I want. I tried it with the high beam on and off. Tried it with the key in the on position.
Ok so on the 800 the headlight does not come on till the bike is started and running, so to check this would the bike have to be running? Even I draw the line at starting the bike in the living room.

Thanks.

Posted by Milky1112
 - March 25, 2014, 13:56:57 PM
Quote from: CDNRatMan on March 25, 2014, 13:49:53 PM

ok but you are half way to the picture list....just to let you know.

Fair enough, Just glad the mystery is solved for sure tho.. so we don't sit here and lose our minds anymore then we have already..
Posted by CDNRatMan
 - March 25, 2014, 13:49:53 PM

ok but you are half way to the picture list....just to let you know.

Posted by Milky1112
 - March 25, 2014, 13:41:12 PM
Quote from: CDNRatMan on March 25, 2014, 13:27:09 PM

Ask PC what happens to people I am not happy with........

Hey now! I'm helping.. and causing trouble lol.. Remember i'm new to this bike unlike you vets here  ;)
Posted by CDNRatMan
 - March 25, 2014, 13:27:09 PM

  Ask PC what happens to people I am not happy with........

Posted by Milky1112
 - March 25, 2014, 13:26:05 PM
Quote from: CDNRatMan on March 25, 2014, 13:24:11 PM

lol....ok never noticed that it was that way......but now I can check farther and see if it is right...........that Milky guy sure had us confused......

Yep, now i have everyone ripping their speedometer apart too.. mwuahahahaha.. my evil plan is working!
Posted by CDNRatMan
 - March 25, 2014, 13:24:11 PM

 lol....ok never noticed that it was that way......but now I can check farther and see if it is right...........that Milky guy sure had us confused......

Posted by 2beers
 - March 25, 2014, 13:04:29 PM
Quote from: Troll on March 25, 2014, 12:47:44 PM

Let me ask you a question...do none of you ride at night????

2beers is askeered of the dark lol

I was just going to post a pic of the wiring diagram, Troll, answering that high beam question!  You beat me to it  :)

Posted by Milky1112
 - March 25, 2014, 12:57:30 PM
Quote from: Troll on March 25, 2014, 12:47:44 PM

Looking carefully at the wiring diagram reveals that there is just 1 illumination bulb for the speedo, and the other one uses the same ground, but the power is from the high beam circuit. Sooo this mysterious "lower" bulb is actually working as designed...talk about a rabbit hole! Let me ask you a question...do none of you ride at night????

Only when my eyes are closed...
Posted by Troll
 - March 25, 2014, 12:47:44 PM

Looking carefully at the wiring diagram reveals that there is just 1 illumination bulb for the speedo, and the other one uses the same ground, but the power is from the high beam circuit. Sooo this mysterious "lower" bulb is actually working as designed...talk about a rabbit hole! Let me ask you a question...do none of you ride at night????

Posted by Milky1112
 - March 25, 2014, 06:25:51 AM
Quote from: CDNRatMan on March 24, 2014, 22:02:31 PM

I could not get any power at the socket, and none along the length of the wire, but I'll spend tomorrow after work checking it again and check the ground also.

Let me know what you find.. cause i'm soon to be doing the same thing.. Just strange that it suddenly goes out when all you do is disconnect the connector..
Posted by CDNRatMan
 - March 24, 2014, 22:02:31 PM

  I could not get any power at the socket, and none along the length of the wire, but I'll spend tomorrow after work checking it again and check the ground also.

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