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Posted by jmbo
- March 23, 2014, 04:19:55 AMQuote from: bikerbob5864 on March 22, 2014, 21:44:22 PMJmbo...........did you have someone who can/is going to make those logos we talked about.............?Just curious.........
Bob
Checking out a source for printing. Will get back to you as soon as I hear.
Posted by bikerbob5864
- March 22, 2014, 23:43:32 PMJust read an article where Polaris/IMI went after a small mfgr called Crazy Horse Motorcycles whose tank emblem was a War bonnet for copyright infringement. Sent them a nice cease and desist letter..........before a summons to civil court! Guess it's already started. I seriously doubt they would go after individuals.........they're more worried about being hijacked on a larger scale.
BobPosted by bikerbob5864
- March 22, 2014, 21:44:22 PMJmbo...........did you have someone who can/is going to make those logos we talked about.............?Just curious.........
BobPosted by jmbo
- March 22, 2014, 14:29:01 PMQuote from: chief on March 22, 2014, 12:19:23 PMAs you may know we used to sell the Indian head fender lights. But when Kings Mtn bought Indian, the manufacturer had to pay a royalty for those, so they stopped making them. I suspect with Polaris' deep pockets they may start trying to curb other things as well... like the original warbonnet. BUT, you will likely still be able to get these things from authorized resellers.
You mentioned the magic words - royalties and authorized resellers. I spend over 40 years in the licensed product business. Both mean one thing CHA-CHING! Things will cost more and have more limited availability. Been there done that!
Posted by chief
- March 22, 2014, 12:19:23 PMQuote from: jmbo on March 22, 2014, 10:55:06 AMAs you may know we used to sell the Indian head fender lights. But when Kings Mtn bought Indian, the manufacturer had to pay a royalty for those, so they stopped making them. I suspect with Polaris' deep pockets they may start trying to curb other things as well... like the original warbonnet. BUT, you will likely still be able to get these things from authorized resellers.Watchout now that Polaris owns Undian. They also own the logo and the rights to it. Buy your Indian based stickers and emblems while you can.
Posted by jmbo
- March 22, 2014, 10:55:06 AMWatchout now that Polaris owns Undian. They also own the logo and the rights to it. Buy your Indian based stickers and emblems while you can.
Posted by LarryInSeattle
- March 22, 2014, 00:42:28 AMI like the Zambini work and put those on my bike. I call it what it is when asked, it is a Drifter, a tribute to the Indian, made by Kawasaki under license from Indian. Most of the time, when someone says "nice Indian" I just say, thank you.
Posted by greenbarn
- March 21, 2014, 22:12:28 PMQuote from: chief on March 21, 2014, 22:00:57 PMPolaris Indian is going to make using the original warbonnet logo a bit less appealing. Fortunately, there are plenty of similar but not the same decals out there for those who really want the warbonnet look... like Zambini.
My thoughts exactly. I'm much likely to want to indianize my drifter now that Indian is "alive" again.
Posted by chief
- March 21, 2014, 22:00:57 PMPolaris Indian is going to make using the original warbonnet logo a bit less appealing. Fortunately, there are plenty of similar but not the same decals out there for those who really want the warbonnet look... like Zambini.
Posted by greenbarn
- March 21, 2014, 21:39:03 PMbikerbob (and Chief): I understand exactly what you are saying. The Drifter IS an Indian tribute or Indian clone bike. That's what it was from the beginning. Like Chief said, it was born in a time when "real" Indians were no longer built. I don't see how putting an Indian bonnet (if you like it), or an Indian fender light (if you like it) or an Indian script tank emblem (if you like it) or WHATEVER, it trying to "make it something it's not". No different than if you put cadillac tail lights, or ford turn signals, or a harley tool box, or paint it to look like patio bricks (I do wish I had saved a picture of THAT one..). It's your bike, your creation to make it look like you want.
bikerbob: Have you looked at the zambini brothers tank emblems. If I recall, they have multi-colored war-bonnet style tank badges. Kind of expensive, but heck, what isn't?
Posted by chief
- March 21, 2014, 14:09:52 PMThis is a debate that has been going on since 1999! The bike was designed and originally built before the resurrection of the Indian brand. Kaw did indeed pay to use the fenders. It is a tribute bike.
Over the many years between 1953 and 1999 many bikes tried to do the same thing. I have seen Harleys with Indian/American Indian stuff on it. Kiwi still makes bikes that look like the originals. Kawasaki and the Cobra team did a fine job!
I think it will be more difficult to keep to the tribute line since Polaris has and will sell a bunch more Indian brand bikes. BUT! one of the things that makes us different is we are DIFFERENT. We don't have the same bike as the herd that rumbles by... and what we do with our ride is entirely individual. There will be groups who like this and dislike that... but mutual respect still underlies it all. The great thing about Drifters... you rarely find two just alike!
So, do what makes you feel good and while I might not want to do it with my bike - I respect your choices!
Posted by bikerbob5864
- March 21, 2014, 02:17:49 AMBesides...................Mama likes'em............and if Mama ain't happy...............ain't nobody happy!!!!.................. 
Posted by bikerbob5864
- March 21, 2014, 02:14:08 AMIt's my understanding that Kawasaki paid for the right to use the Fender style to whomever held the Indian copyrights when they started to manufacture the Drifter...............correct? In doing doing so, it can be reasonably assumed that they(Kawasaki) knew they were building a motorcycle that would replicate the overall style of the early Indians close enough to possibly cause infringement of copyright laws. Since this was obviously their purpose, adding things that enhance the illusion of an Indian-style motorcycle is not turning it into something it is not. Rather, I would argue that it is paying tribute to a time and style gone by on a technically relevant platform. Besides...............I think the War Bonnets are just too cool for S'Kool!!! baby!!!!!!.................................
Posted by Drifter1500
- March 20, 2014, 22:18:58 PMDRIFTER and proud to fly my flag.
Just got no idea why you would make it something it's not.
Posted by bikerbob5864
- March 20, 2014, 21:33:02 PMYea, I get what you guys are saying. If I couldn't find decals like I wanted, the one's I have with the script on them were going on......no matter what.
I just like the look of the Classic War Bonnet. Shoot..........there's a guy here in town that has a Honda late model of some kind with Indian Warbonnets on the tanks..........and it looks good!!!! I never dumped on the guy.....but when I asked him where he got them......he got all defensive and and said"they came on the bike!"
You could tell that he'd been dumped on many times before. Man, why do people have to be such jerks?!