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Posted by greenbarn
- August 13, 2013, 21:43:27 PMQuote from: Petemoss on August 12, 2013, 18:18:35 PMI sure agree with that.I'm not willing to pay 22 grand for something I don't like.
BUT....
I've sure seen my share of trucks over the years that I fairly much hated when they first came out with a new model, then later I grew to dislike them less and perhaps liked them. A few models even ended up owning one down the road... I wonder if that's how it will be with this ugly duckling??
Posted by darkdrifter
- August 12, 2013, 22:03:14 PMedited my previous post with pic links, just be careful as they are nws 
hey troll, bummer about the ride and no Indians. but hey, Come up to the Twin Cities Indian dealer in MN next week fri, sat, and sunday and take a demo ride on the new Indians. there will be rides and events. Ride your drifter, you'll be welcome. I'll be there saterday on my darkhorse.
more info on their website.
Posted by Petemoss
- August 12, 2013, 18:18:35 PMQuote from: John Hopkins on August 11, 2013, 18:53:28 PMOur bikes DO look more like a classic Indian than what Polaris has designed this bike to be. And if I hit the lotto I'd buy last years model. I can't speak for everyone but my opinion of 2014 Indian has nothing to do with brand bashing. In fact, I was considering buying one until I saw the design. I'm not willing to pay 22 grand for something I don't like.I like the new Indians, and I like the engine..1810ccs, I like the price $18,500 up..I see what you are all saying about it not looking exactly like an old Indian, but it IS an Indian..
Several of you have said you don't want your Drifter to look like an Indian, that you are proud of the Drifter look and now some of you are saying the Drifter looks more like an Indian than the Indian does..
Let's not lower ourselves to brand bashing, we have a great bike that will always get admired by riders and non riders alike, let's settle for that.
If I win the lottery this week I will go out and buy a new Indian, if not I will be proud to ride my Drifter..
John.
Posted by Troll
- August 12, 2013, 17:54:55 PMI'm thinking just postponed until he has some bikes...
Posted by Petemoss
- August 12, 2013, 17:53:18 PMMission postponed or mission canceled, Troll? We need real people pics here.
Posted by Troll
- August 12, 2013, 17:41:20 PMJohn...no fluid loss. The primary cup is bypassing back to the reservoir. Now that it's cooled off from the trip, it seems to be working again...
Posted by John Hopkins
- August 12, 2013, 17:34:26 PMQuote from: Troll on August 12, 2013, 14:42:14 PMThat was bad luck, couldn't just top it up with fluid to get you home from the gas station..I went to pull into a town to get fuel on the way back (180.6 miles-4.109g), and when I squeezed the clutch...there wasn't one! Pump like crazy, and I could get it to release long enough to shift down and get into neutral...coasted into the gas station, filled it up, pumped like crazy, and got into gear...back on the "I"...and back home. Called the dealer, he ordered me a rebuild kit for the master...won't be in 'till Friday. Glad I have the "W"....the last bike night of the season is Thursday!
John.
Posted by 49Reo
- August 12, 2013, 15:52:54 PMQuote from: Troll on August 12, 2013, 14:42:14 PM...shades of the past...The things I do for you guys.....I went to Madtown, like I said I would. 300 miles (approx) to see and take pictures of the new Indian...what did I get? NOTHING! I get to the place, and they have a fancy new building just for the Indians, but NO BIKES! I walk in, and there is a front fender on a stand like some kind of trophy...accept for the wider chrome trim strip, it might have been off my bike...same colors and everything! The salesman come over and asks how I am...I say disappointed. He won't have any bikes until the first week in September. No sales brochures, no nothing, but a fancy building and a fender. On the bright side, the Drifter got 44 mpg running 75 mph on the "I". Down side:
I went to pull into a town to get fuel on the way back (180.6 miles-4.109g), and when I squeezed the clutch...there wasn't one! Pump like crazy, and I could get it to release long enough to shift down and get into neutral...coasted into the gas station, filled it up, pumped like crazy, and got into gear...back on the "I"...and back home. Called the dealer, he ordered me a rebuild kit for the master...won't be in 'till Friday. Glad I have the "W"....the last bike night of the season is Thursday!
Posted by Troll
- August 12, 2013, 14:58:37 PMQuote from: CDNRatMan on August 12, 2013, 14:52:31 PMWOW early winter for you people then......I am hoping to ride till at least end of Sept if not into Oct this year.
Bike night at the local Drive-in restaurant...I'm planning on riding into December, like I usually do.
Posted by CDNRatMan
- August 12, 2013, 14:52:31 PMQuoteWOW early winter for you people then......I am hoping to ride till at least end of Sept if not into Oct this year.the last bike night of the season is Thursday
Posted by Troll
- August 12, 2013, 14:42:14 PM The things I do for you guys.....I went to Madtown, like I said I would. 300 miles (approx) to see and take pictures of the new Indian...what did I get? NOTHING! I get to the place, and they have a fancy new building just for the Indians, but NO BIKES! I walk in, and there is a front fender on a stand like some kind of trophy...accept for the wider chrome trim strip, it might have been off my bike...same colors and everything! The salesman come over and asks how I am...I say disappointed. He won't have any bikes until the first week in September. No sales brochures, no nothing, but a fancy building and a fender. On the bright side, the Drifter got 44 mpg running 75 mph on the "I". Down side:
I went to pull into a town to get fuel on the way back (180.6 miles-4.109g), and when I squeezed the clutch...there wasn't one! Pump like crazy, and I could get it to release long enough to shift down and get into neutral...coasted into the gas station, filled it up, pumped like crazy, and got into gear...back on the "I"...and back home. Called the dealer, he ordered me a rebuild kit for the master...won't be in 'till Friday. Glad I have the "W"....the last bike night of the season is Thursday!
Posted by darkdrifter
- August 11, 2013, 18:55:29 PMedit
Posted by John Hopkins
- August 11, 2013, 18:53:28 PMI like the new Indians, and I like the engine..1810ccs, I like the price $18,500 up..I see what you are all saying about it not looking exactly like an old Indian, but it IS an Indian..
Several of you have said you don't want your Drifter to look like an Indian, that you are proud of the Drifter look and now some of you are saying the Drifter looks more like an Indian than the Indian does..
Let's not lower ourselves to brand bashing, we have a great bike that will always get admired by riders and non riders alike, let's settle for that.
If I win the lottery this week I will go out and buy a new Indian, if not I will be proud to ride my Drifter..
John.
Posted by Troll
- August 11, 2013, 18:53:11 PMI'll be posting pictures of the 2014 Indians tomorrow, after I get back from Madison...I'm sure they will be no match for yours...
Posted by darkdrifter
- August 11, 2013, 18:02:53 PMkeep in mind how many years it took for Victory to finally make a profit for polaris. If I recall correctly, it wasn't until 3 or 4 years ago. somebody may have to fact check me on that.
I figure they'll do the same for Indian if it doesn't make money right away. and even though I don't agree with some of their marketing approach either, I'll still force myself to give them the benefit of the doubt and think they may change the design if these 14's don't sell.
I'm glad victorys are out there, I just think their ugly in some ways, and trying to copy too much off harleys and the metrics in others. thats jmo, and if we all liked only one style of bike, it would be a boring mc world.
what dissapoints me is how much you see victory in these new Indians, all the way down to the engine.
it may be pushrods, but its still same layout, with "oil cooled" design.
I'm no expert, but I am "told" that a rh side drive on a standard vtwin is "better balenced" and more torque. Not to mention, its a whole lot less time consuming and less of a pita to change a belt. (could be wrong) either way, thats one carry over from victory I do like.
I also dislike polaris's approach to providing parts for their 2012-2013 Indian models (many still on dealer showroom floors).
Their approach is: immdietly discontinue many of those parts while the new models are still being sold. this is no joke (ask me how I know).
The only differances I see in my 09-2013 Indian service manul between the Kings Mountain era Indians, and the Polaris built Indians from mostly left-over parts (other than discontinuing many of the colors and models), is the forks where built by a differant manufacture and no longer have drains on the bottom for the oil,.... and a couple changes inthe fuse box.
My approach when I bought my 2010 Indian was to ride the crap out of it. If parts fail or break, I'm gonna make/cut/morph/build myself to fix or make better.
I've actually only had a handful of small problems. Polaris fixed them all that I turned in for warranty. They where in no big hurry though.
I'm at 15000 miles, and the engine has been bullit proof. It even got flooded in water just up to over the top of the cylinders in the missisipi river a few weeks ago (not a fun story). Several engine oil/tranny/primary flushes later and its running better than ever.
I have added a tuner and pipes, and many many mods to the rest of the bike to get it where I wanted it. Including a repaint.
anybody here considering buying a 09-14 Indian, it really is a pretty dang good bike, you just better plan really hard when considering factory replacement parts. but there are some things in your favor. the baker dd6, for example.... thats obviously not a issue as far as maintance and parts.
I could go on and on. and the end of the day, its a overpriced bike (duh), and it looks like it still is, just not as bad, till you go putting some of the accessories on it.... $900 for a rear seat back rest?
seriously? even my kings mountain indinan backrest was only a couple hundred.
leather bags are even more than for the last model. (take a look at the leather bag prices, I dare you, lol!
oh well, the drifter is a better bike to me in many ways, but its definetly not as good in many others for what I want in a bike. we're all differant.
The new 2012 and 13's that where unsold at the dealerships all dropped quite a bit in price when the price of the 14's where revealed.
Should any of you have any questions considering purchase on a 09-13 Indian, I'll be happy to give you my opinion or advice I can offer.
speaking of which, here are some pics with the woman from most recent little photo shoot with my Indian at my buddy's vtwin shop.
she borrowed a headress and we got out the body paint.
We're going to have to do some pics with the drifter like this,
NWS NWS NSFW NSFW!!!!!
NUDE BUT CLASSY, LOL!!!
AGAIN, NWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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