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Posted by John Hopkins
- July 14, 2013, 19:02:12 PMQuote from: Gerhardberger on July 14, 2013, 07:36:47 AMwas at my local garage and that's the solution I've got: they checked with Kawa Spain and the solution of the seperate rele for the additional headlights is't optimal. They told my mechanic that he should fix the cable again to the high beam without an additional cable, substituing the 10W rele with an 15W rele, and I should use high beam as less as possible.
What do you thing about it ? The reason is that on a bike with the years of mine, the electrical sysistem will not have an easy work supporting the extra consumption of the aux lights. Therefore its the same to put them on an extra cable or use existing wire of high beam.
It sounds strange, isn it ?
If you are saying what I think you are saying then you have two choices, take advice from your garage who think the existing cable will be strong enough to take the extra load or take our advice and fit a relay and new wiring..
If you take the garage's advice and the wiring loom overheats who will pay for the repair..
John.
Posted by Troll
- July 14, 2013, 07:59:12 AMThat sounds more than just strange. I just checked the output of my charging system, and, with the mp3 player and the spot lights on, it has 14.3 V at the battery with the engine idling. The idea of removing the spot lights from the bike's original electrical system and putting it on it's own circuits is to protect the original wiring and switches from possible overload and heat damage.
Posted by Gerhardberger
- July 14, 2013, 07:36:47 AMwas at my local garage and that's the solution I've got: they checked with Kawa Spain and the solution of the seperate rele for the additional headlights is't optimal. They told my mechanic that he should fix the cable again to the high beam without an additional cable, substituing the 10W rele with an 15W rele, and I should use high beam as less as possible.
What do you thing about it ? The reason is that on a bike with the years of mine, the electrical sysistem will not have an easy work supporting the extra consumption of the aux lights. Therefore its the same to put them on an extra cable or use existing wire of high beam.
It sounds strange, isn it ?
Posted by Gerhardberger
- July 08, 2013, 06:09:54 AMThank you very much for the useful and interesting information....Will keep u informed !
Posted by John Hopkins
- July 01, 2013, 13:32:59 PMQuote from: Gerhardberger on July 01, 2013, 09:13:07 AMBecause you are not in the USA you need to buy a 12v to 15v dc N/O relay with 20amp contacts that is a relay where the contacts are open until you connect 12v dc across the coil and then they close..The trigger wire is the wire that gives the 12v + voltage to the coil, as long as you follow the diagram you will have no problems..but if you are not sure how to do it take the relay and lights to a local bike shop and show them these posts...Thank you very much for the diagramm, but in spain, its illegal to drive with three low beams, therefore i had them linked to the high beams of my Drifter. What changes should i make to the diagramm you've sent ?
the reason I stated 12v to 15v is because the voltage on your bike can rise to 14.8v dc and 15v relays will generally switch at 12v so you have a safety margin..
John.
Posted by Troll
- July 01, 2013, 09:53:41 AMJust switch the trigger wire to the high beam circuit.
Posted by Gerhardberger
- July 01, 2013, 09:13:07 AMThank you very much for the diagramm, but in spain, its illegal to drive with three low beams, therefore i had them linked to the high beams of my Drifter. What changes should i make to the diagramm you've sent ?
Posted by Troll
- July 01, 2013, 07:58:21 AMHere's a simple diagram of the circuit. By using the low beam as the trigger, you are 1, making sure it won't stay on when the ign. is off, 2. won't come on before the engine is running, and 3. you are in compliance with federal laws about aux. lighting.
Posted by DC
- July 01, 2013, 07:42:57 AMQuote from: Troll on July 01, 2013, 07:41:10 AMThere is a kit at auto parts stores for about $10 with everything you need. Wires are made up with spade connectors and it has a relay just for the job. Driving light relay kit. I installed mine using the low beam circuit as the trigger. Using an inline waterproof fuse holder (also available at auto parts stores) mounted as close as possible to the battery. That way it protects the whole circuit. The relay and wiring will easily fit inside the headlight shell.
Cool! Thanks for that!
Posted by Troll
- July 01, 2013, 07:41:10 AMThere is a kit at auto parts stores for about $10 with everything you need. Wires are made up with spade connectors and it has a relay just for the job. Driving light relay kit. I installed mine using the low beam circuit as the trigger. Using an inline waterproof fuse holder (also available at auto parts stores) mounted as close as possible to the battery. That way it protects the whole circuit. The relay and wiring will easily fit inside the headlight shell.
Posted by DC
- July 01, 2013, 07:36:01 AMTroll, can you post that wiring diagram? I'm getting ready to do mine when my lightbar arrives and that would help loads.
What kind of relay should you get?
Do you recommend an inline fuse-holder?
Posted by Troll
- June 30, 2013, 12:37:04 PMOk. Here's how I have mine wired. The light bar has it's own switch, so that switch controls the relay trigger wire. The power for the lights comes off the battery with it's own harness and fuse. The trigger wire for the relay is connected to the low beam power from the headlight switch (in the US, this is the requirement). If the switch is closed, the power from the headlight low beam flows to the relay trigger and that turns on the lights. If the switch is open, then the trigger wire never sends current to the relay, so no lights. If I switch to the high beam, the trigger voltage is removed, and the lights go out. If the engine is not running, the headlight is not on, so there is no trigger voltage to the relay, even if the ign. is turned on...Post when you get home, and I will send you a detailed wiring diagram...It sounds complicated, but it's really only 4 wires...
Posted by Gerhardberger
- June 30, 2013, 12:06:16 PMNo. They are linked to the high beam and to their switch. Will disconect the bulbs on both lights in the meanwhile 
Posted by Troll
- June 30, 2013, 11:57:40 AMDon't use the extra lights and you should be fine...they do have a switch on them, don't they?
Posted by Gerhardberger
- June 30, 2013, 11:54:17 AMSoory for the confusing definition
My main head light can be used on low or high beam 55/60 w
Two additional lights on high beam 55w each
Indian fender, position light, backlight, plate number, speedo light 5w each
High beam indicator 1,7w
Thats how i found out maximum consumption at night with high beam....unless i break at nigh. Then the 5w backlight turn 21w due to the breakinglights...
My conclusion is: with the 30a fuse instead of the 10a i will be able to enjoy the rest of my vacations, but as soon as i come back home, i shall reconstruct the electrical supply of my both additional lights....with your help!
Thank you 