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It seems to me that if something new is being introduced to your roads the government should put adverts on all TV stations explaining how they work..that is what happens here..
John.
Several years ago, my wife witnessed a rather abrupt end to some poor slobs vacation; it happened in Dawson Creek, B.C., Mile 'O' of the famed "Alaska Highway'. This poor guy pulled up to the traffic circle, saw the sign pointing 'left' to Alaska, and discovered that hanging a quick left when entering a traffic circle is hazardous to say the least. Head on with a semi. Luckily they were only doing 5-10 mph. Sure wiped out the leading end of that motor-home, though. 
Quote from: John Hopkins on June 30, 2013, 07:51:15 AMYep, UK is the "roundabout" capital IMHO.I think we invented them, we have thousands of them, singles, doubles, triples, quads..we even have them painted on the road..some I can take at 50mph and others at 30mph others I have to stop for..because we drive on the left the rule is give way to the right so the speed I take the roundabout at depends on how far away I can see the oncoming traffic..There is always a sign to warn me when I am approaching one so I have plenty of time to slow down if I need to..
I hate city riding, traffic lights within 20 yards of each other, bus lanes, one way streets, so much traffic you can't see the road direction signs, cameras, no parking, accidents..
I live in a quiet town, about 16000 people and in five minutes I am out in a national park..
John.
Then there are the kids that want to do a turf job on the grass in the center and end up getting stuck.
Quote from: John Hopkins on July 01, 2013, 13:21:47 PMYou are supposed to treat them as you would a T junction, give way to oncoming traffic and if something is already on the roundabout wait until they have passed your entrance..on the larger ones you can go if there is the same amount of space between you and the approaching vehicle as you would allow for oncoming traffic on a T junction or cross road..
It's common sense really..you don't pull out if someone is close enough to have to brake to avoid running into you..
John.
Here in the states,..common sense is quickly being replaced with neanderthal like driving. Part of the dumbing down of the American people.
You are supposed to treat them as you would a T junction, give way to oncoming traffic and if something is already on the roundabout wait until they have passed your entrance..on the larger ones you can go if there is the same amount of space between you and the approaching vehicle as you would allow for oncoming traffic on a T junction or cross road..
It's common sense really..you don't pull out if someone is close enough to have to brake to avoid running into you..
John.
Quote from: DC on July 01, 2013, 07:26:02 AMThat's the main problem I see with them. Most people get the hang of them, but when somebody new comes along, who maybe isn't as familiar with them, then it's a pretty strange concept to "aggressively and purposefully" (well put), enter them, and the end result may not be so great. Trouble is the one guy is aggressively purposefully, and the other guy is "huh??" and then it's down hill from there.Living next door to New Jersey, I've been around them most of my life. They have big ones and small ones. In New Jersey you have aggressively and purposefully enter them, or you'll be mowed down by the cars behind you.
They just installed one around here a year or two ago and, at first, peeps were completely baffled by it. After a while, most peeps got the hang of it. They're fun, as long as everyone follows the yield rules. If not, they can turn into demolition derby . . .which I've also seen happen.
ah more rules to follow..........man
But that's the key factor isn't it...everybody following the rules.
Living next door to New Jersey, I've been around them most of my life. They have big ones and small ones. In New Jersey you have aggressively and purposefully enter them, or you'll be mowed down by the cars behind you.
They just installed one around here a year or two ago and, at first, peeps were completely baffled by it. After a while, most peeps got the hang of it. They're fun, as long as everyone follows the yield rules. If not, they can turn into demolition derby . . .which I've also seen happen.
I think we invented them, we have thousands of them, singles, doubles, triples, quads..we even have them painted on the road..some I can take at 50mph and others at 30mph others I have to stop for..because we drive on the left the rule is give way to the right so the speed I take the roundabout at depends on how far away I can see the oncoming traffic..There is always a sign to warn me when I am approaching one so I have plenty of time to slow down if I need to..
I hate city riding, traffic lights within 20 yards of each other, bus lanes, one way streets, so much traffic you can't see the road direction signs, cameras, no parking, accidents..
I live in a quiet town, about 16000 people and in five minutes I am out in a national park..
John.
love them.....just get on one during a busy part of the day and just keep going around for like 4 or 5 laps and watch people trying to figure out what you are doing.......makes for an interesting day.......
think the first one was in 0hi0........
You guys summed up what I think about them, plus one thing...There are so few of them around here, most people from the "rural" part of the state haven't seen them until they go to the "urban" areas, and then SURPRISE!
It's always seemed like a dumb idea to me. I mean, yea, it keeps traffic from slowing down, but sometimes that's preferable to heavy traffic to just "keep moving" in a cray random never-slowing circle where no one can really tell where the other guy is going. So where did these things start, anyway?
I too have rotaries all ove Ma. They are dangerous especially when the cars don't honor the yield. All trafic in the rotary has the right of way and the vehicles are supposed to allow those in the rotary to exit or keep going round first. Unfortunately some drivers are just impatient and go when not supposed to. Makes them SO dangerous on 2 wheels.
Dan
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