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Posted by chief
 - March 15, 2013, 16:38:06 PM

if you plan to have the bike dyno'd and you want the most adjustment go with the much more expensive PC - new model whatever that is - or one of its clones. There are existing maps which will help tune the bike... at least put it in the ballpark until you dyno.

For simplicity and a lower price, go with the Cobra or one of its clones/competitors. I wanted simplicity and the low price... There are others out there so you might want to do some research to determine which one serves your needed. 

Posted by nhtrikes
 - March 15, 2013, 12:00:33 PM

Ouch! Thanks for the info Troll . . . and I thought 200 was a lot  :P

Posted by Troll
 - March 15, 2013, 11:55:31 AM

The power commander is like 2x that much....

Posted by nhtrikes
 - March 15, 2013, 10:51:59 AM

The Cobra Fi2000 PowerPro doesn't seem to need programming. It's auto adjusting to all conditions with or without O2  sensors. It monitors the system more than 80 times per second and makes adjustments continously.

"This is the product that continuously tunes your fuel-injected motorcycle every time it accelerates. You get the perfect fuel so that your bike produces the most power every time you snap open the throttle." Cobra.

So they say. It's priced at @$200. I don't know if that's pricey or not. Hopefully I can get by without it, if not, I may have to dip into the piggy bank and get me one, unless of course the Power Commander is much more economical. It's great that they will help you program it, shows good support from the company.

Joe got back to me right away and has the coasters in stock. Ordered a set. One of several little projects when (hopefully) I get her back! I have another question regarding my Corbin 2 up seat but I'll start another thread for that.
Thanks again everyone!!!

Take care,

Pete . . .

Posted by 49Reo
 - March 15, 2013, 10:32:02 AM

I put V&H pipes on mine, and I am running a Power Commander III USB; great unit, was having a bit of trouble programming it, so called them, a techy logged into my laptop while it was hooked to the bike and programmed it. No popping on decel, got more acceleration power, pipes run clean. Haven't looked at the Cobra unit though.... ???

Posted by nhtrikes
 - March 15, 2013, 07:23:12 AM

Thanks for education Chief! That link explained it pretty well, easy to understand. That Fi2000 is pretty amazing, what they can pack into a tiny little box nowadays! I will start with removing the reed valves 'cause I too like the cleaner cylinder look. It doesn't sound like I'll need the box but if she starts to act up, lack of power or continued popping, then I'll have to put one on. I'll contact Joe Norris so I can get those coasters before I get the bike back, I hope  ;)

The mechanic did seem a little too excited the last time I saw him after the paint job, DC. Now ya got me even more worried. I don't who was drooling over the bike more, me or him. Kinda glad I have both seats right now, helps keep the mileage down  :o

Take care,

Pete . . .

Posted by DC
 - March 15, 2013, 07:08:44 AM
Quote from: nhtrikes on March 14, 2013, 13:13:16 PM

. . . . . I"m hoping my mechanic will take it for a test drive before giving it back to me, soon I hope,  . . . .

And what makes you so sure the mechanic is going to give it back to you?  He won't want to, after taking it out for a ride.   ;)   ;D
Posted by chief
 - March 14, 2013, 20:16:28 PM

I had already removed the smog stuff and used coasters, so "marbles" weren't needed. I prefer the coaster method and total removal of all that useless stuff. The Big Willy's breath well apparently so the box was necessary.

Posted by pcarrell
 - March 14, 2013, 18:14:39 PM

I had a little popping before I marbled it.  $1 for a bag of marbles and a couple of old hose clamps and the popping was gone.

Posted by chief
 - March 14, 2013, 15:29:09 PM

If you get backfiring and/or deceleration popping... you will need to get something to control it.

The following might give you some background... this is the new one Cobra has but the essentials are there. The box just continuously monitors and adjusts the air/fuel mixture beyond what the EFi is capable of doing.

http://www.fi2000r.com/html/knowledge_center.php

Posted by nhtrikes
 - March 14, 2013, 13:13:16 PM

What exactly does the add-on box do? Adjust air intake for the FI? Not planning on touching the airbox right now, Chief, though you never know  ;).  How will I know if I need to add one? What are the symptoms I should be watching for that will let me know? I"m hoping my mechanic will take it for a test drive before giving it back to me, soon I hope, to let me know if it needs one. He said he didn't think so but wasn't sure. Sorry for the many questions  :P! I've never messed with exhaust on a motorcycle before. My old bike, '76 Triumph Tiger 750 had a single carb and I only changed out the mufflers not the pipes. Might be selling her this summer, maybe not. Hard to part with her 'cause I've had her for 26 years, lotta memories.

Posted by pcarrell
 - March 14, 2013, 12:25:19 PM

Hmmm, I have the V&H Longshots with the baffles that come with them, like the OP, and only needed to marble the engine to have it running right.

Posted by chief
 - March 14, 2013, 12:16:33 PM

USUALLY, you don't need an add-on box for just a pipe change, assuming you don't do an air box change at the same time. But not all pipes are made equal. I did need one when I changed from oem to BUBs big willys. I got a Cobra FI2000 which corrected the decel popping problem I had at stock settings.

For simple installation and correction I suggest the mapless controllers like the Cobra box. With a PC you should get the bike dyno'd for best performance.

Posted by DC
 - March 14, 2013, 11:36:41 AM

Thanks for the info, Pete!   8)

Sorry for getting off-topic.  Now back to our regularly-scheduled program. 

Posted by nhtrikes
 - March 14, 2013, 11:30:38 AM

A private guy, his business is called West Side Uphostery. He's been an upholsterer for over 30 years doing everything from furniture to cars, motorcycles & boats. He only does motorcycles and boats now as he is had medical problems with joints for the past 10 years. Doesn't advertise, just word of mouth jobs as he can't keep up if it gets too busy. Works out of his barn.  Only does one or two jobs a week depending on how difficult it is. I showed him my Corbin 2-up and asked about putting in gel if I find it to hard, said he wouldn't touch it. Leather is glued to seat throughout, pan is fiberglass and riveted, too difficult because of his medical issues. He said he would be afraid he couldn't get it to look as good as it does now. He's a perfectionist. He does great work on the jobs he does take but is obviously picky on what he will and won't take for jobs.  Take care,

Pete . . .

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