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Posted by John Hopkins
- April 26, 2013, 21:50:48 PMFurther to my statement about using the correct oil..
This is not just something I have experienced myself it is also a well documented problem on many different bikes and in some service manuals it goes as far as to state...
The Jaso MA standard is required to prevent clutch slippage.
The reasons I mentioned changing oil is because it is a cheap easy thing to try, and because it is possible that the place that changed the oil in your bike may have used a cheaper non Jaso MA standard in the interest of saving money or simply because they do not believe that it is important to use that standard.
John.
Posted by Troll
- April 26, 2013, 19:30:18 PMNot sure what to say here. If the shifts are getting harsher, is the shift effort increasing? My first thought, since this is a cable clutch, is that the free-play is set wrong. If the clutch isn't completely releasing, this could cause the problem. Really need more information here..
Posted by David Baker
- April 26, 2013, 19:16:28 PMThanks RatMan... Wasn't sure, It really does help to drain the oil completely.
Posted by CDNRatMan
- April 25, 2013, 20:50:09 PMthe 800 does have a screen on the kickstand side of the engine level with the frame.
Posted by David Baker
- April 25, 2013, 20:43:37 PM@ John Hopkins, Do the 800s have an oil screen like the 1500s? I remove the oil screen when I do my oil change and it drains more out than just opening the drain plug and removing the filter as it's located at the lowest point of the block.
Posted by Never too late
- April 25, 2013, 18:51:18 PMHi Everyone
It's funny I just had all the work done by the better known Kawi dealer in our area. The oil used ( from the receipt ) says M4 10w40. It had a 20,000 km service done also which includes oil change, coolant, front & rear brake fluid, spark plugs and valve adjustment.... The whole 9 yards.
The bike is stored in a unheated garage and the batteries were tendered in the winter. It starts easy.... But it only feels clunky after its been driven for a while.
But if this seems related to an oil change.... I think I can do it!
I appreciate the help!
Never Too Late
Posted by CDNRatMan
- April 25, 2013, 08:19:24 AM There is a wide range of oil to be used in the 800 from the manuel, so I used 10w40 Amsoil. I did it myself, not hard at all. I added some seafoam to the crank, went for a short ride to get it nice and warm, pulled the drain plug and went for lunch. Came back and filled it with some cheap oil, went for another short ride, and pulled the drain plug again, and then the filter off, left it to drain while I went to read my emails and do some other stuff. New filter and fresh new Amsoil and we are up and running.
Shifting is easy and not noticed the clunky shifting........once the snow melts again I'll go out and try it and see.
Posted by John Hopkins
- April 25, 2013, 07:14:53 AMI think you need an oil change..
Having a bike serviced by someone else can be a bad idea, as Drift1 mentioned our bikes work with a wet clutch they can have shift problems if you don't use the correct oil..
I use SAE 10-40; Jaso MA-2; API SJ:
The brand I am using at the moment is Castrol Power1
But you should buy a service manual which will tell you how to do an oil change and do it yourself..
The manual will tell you to use 10-40; API SG, SH, SJ or SL. With Jaso MA:
Drain the oil, change the oil filter, leave the bike to drip while you go for a cup of coffee, then fit the new filter and top the oil up to the correct level..
This will not remove all the old oil because the clutch housing will retain some but the new oil will dilute the old oil enough to make it harmless.
John.
Posted by Drift1
- April 25, 2013, 05:10:44 AMNTL I was going to suggest an oil change being our rides are equipped with a wet clutch but,I see your ride has already been serviced.How is your bike stored?ex.(outside,heated garage etc.)I ask to eliminate possible internal moisture reasons.Also did your service include the cables being lubed?If so I'm thinking you may need a slight adjustment.These are were I would start with,"process of elimination" I'm sure It's something simple.Our professional members probably could shed more light on this matter.
Posted by Never too late
- April 25, 2013, 00:04:04 AMHi Everyone
I have a 2001 800 and have been out going for some rides since the weather has brightened. I find that when my ride starts out I get some even crisp shifts .... But when I am returning back the ride seems to change. It feels like when the engine has warmed up 20 minutes or so the shifts / transmission feels clunkier. Is that possible? Or is it my imagination ?
My 800 was serviced this winter and it has about 21,000 miles.
Any thoughts?
Thanks Never Too Late