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Posted by chief
- July 15, 2022, 20:54:32 PMQuote from: OR Seedman on July 12, 2022, 17:50:04 PMEngine runs smooth and quiet. My personal opinion is that the programmers are over-rated and cause more issues than they are worth.
I had the opposite experience. Lots of issues with popping, decel backfires, etc. Added the box and it immediately corrected the issues. That was about 19-20 years ago... still runs strong.
Posted by OR Seedman
- July 12, 2022, 17:50:04 PMI run the same Baron's unit on my "1600" Drifter with dual longshots and reed valves capped. No programmer. Engine runs smooth and quiet. My personal opinion is that the programmers are over-rated and cause more issues than they are worth. Had one on the bike when the original engine was in. One day it just started dumping fuel into the cylinders through the injectors...dropped my mileage down below 20 mpg and it ran like crap. Pulled the unit and set it back to stock but with the Baron's Air and the longshots. Ran better than ever, so I set everything up the same way on the new 1600 engine. Burns clean with a light charcoal colored coating in my exhaust tips.
Posted by Troll
- July 12, 2022, 08:57:22 AMSounds like it's just running extremely rich. I would start by disconnecting the power commander, and let the oem fuel map do the job it was programmed to do, and see what happens.
Posted by Highc5555
- July 12, 2022, 08:33:46 AMi guess I'm not 100% certain its oil. It looks like oil and feels like oil on my fingers... but when you wipe it out of the muff with a paper towel, it appears sooty.
Posted by Troll
- July 11, 2022, 14:14:59 PMWhat makes you think it's oil? A rich mixture mixed with condensation will look a lot like oil.
Posted by Highc5555
- July 11, 2022, 08:01:18 AMso i put 30 miles on and it ran well other than the high idle... i started her up 4 days later and its back to running like shit. runs choppy, blows oil out exhaust. i was sure the reed valve vac system was the culprit... now i just dont know. anyone have any ideas?
Posted by Highc5555
- July 05, 2022, 11:13:28 AMA QUICK UPDATE- i now have the machine running correctly.
NOTE- If you choose the Baron's Big Air Kit, do not install the reed valve delete blank off plates. Instead, use the marble technique and leave the reed valves alone. Baron instructions say to blank these guys off... the engine will not run properly.
currently running PCV tune .39- muzzy 2-1 and baron big air kit... the bike idles a bit high (1235 RPM @ 1% throttle). I think the dyno tuner will fix that... will update in a week or two.
Posted by Highc5555
- May 09, 2022, 10:01:34 AMPosted by Highc5555
- May 09, 2022, 09:27:06 AMthe 02 mean streak 1600. I did not test run the parts individually however all accounts say an exhaust swap alone will not need a PCV
Posted by gwilki
- April 27, 2022, 13:52:52 PMA couple of questions if you don't mind High.
I realize that you did many things at the same time. Do you have a sense of whether you would have needed the power commander if you had only changed the exhaust?
HardKrome does not list the Sideburner as fitting the 1600. They only show the 3" Big Straights and the American Classic II. What model bike did you choose to get the Sideburner that fit the Drifter?
thanks much
Grant
Posted by Highc5555
- April 26, 2022, 10:25:23 AMSo I went with the Baron's Big Air Kit, Hardchrome 2-1 Sideburner exhaust, and a Power Commander V. Still playing around wit tunes... but there is a huge increase in torque and noticable increase in power.
Posted by mittico68
- December 20, 2021, 01:47:23 AMQuote from: OR Seedman on December 18, 2021, 09:17:05 AMthey only check the VIN on the frame for title identification. I also don't have to go through emissions testing in my county....to rural.
Wow!
Now I can understand the reason why you yankees are so far ahead with customizations... 
Posted by OR Seedman
- December 18, 2021, 09:17:05 AMnone so far...registration is for two years at a time here in Oregon....plus they only check the VIN on the frame for title identification. I also don't have to go through emissions testing in my county....to rural. I would expect it to pass if I had to....
Posted by mittico68
- December 16, 2021, 04:55:38 AMSeedman, not to highjack this tread, but I was just wondering if you have faced some trouble with your local Departement of Motor Vehicles.
Here in Italy, your kind of mod might involve serious problems, because of the new registration it takes within...
Posted by OR Seedman
- December 14, 2021, 15:42:26 PMdirect swap. no fabrication. I did have to swap out the fuel intake setup. Electronics plugged right in, but the 1600 has two alternators....an outer one like the 1500 and an inner one. I only plugged my regulator into the outer one and tapped off the inner one and tucked it inside the side cover. An electrician friend of mine told be that would be fine....I thought about taking it out, but he said don't bother....
The cpu is the stock Drifter one....seems to work perfectly fine with the bigger engine (longer stroke). The low end gain is definitely noticeable. Plus, the newer engine is MUCH less noisy....almost as quite as my 800 was. Really, the lifters are much quieter on this engine than on the 1500...so far, anyway.
There isn't really a gain in Hp....maybe a couple over the 1500, but I think the 1600 puts out at least 10-11 more lbs of torque. And you can tell it when riding.
Look for a low mileage one (I got mine with 1 mile on it from a wrecked 2003 Classic...guy wrecked riding it out of the dealership) Paid a total of $1300 for the complete engine ready to drop in.....including shipping.
I detailed the swap in a post last winter