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Posted by JagLite
 - January 10, 2021, 15:02:07 PM

Thanks!
I bought a set on Ebay and they are in the mail so I hope they arrive soon.
I would love a set of Longshots but shipping to Alaska is way too expensive.

Posted by OR Seedman
 - January 01, 2021, 18:38:04 PM

yeah, it's only the difference in finishes....the V&H pipes from my 1500 with the built in flanges bolted right up to my 1600 engine....nice and snug...but then I swapped them out for the nomad exhaust.  The V&H longshots with all three sets of tips will be posted on the classifieds here shortly.

The exhaust ports on the heads for both the 1500 and 1600 are exactly the same diameter....I check with a caliper.

Posted by JagLite
 - December 31, 2020, 16:09:44 PM

Sounds good!

Posted by Troll
 - December 31, 2020, 14:51:32 PM

I would have to say t's probably the finish color. I have a Peace Pipe, designed for the '99, and it fits my '01, using the original flanges

Posted by JagLite
 - December 31, 2020, 14:08:49 PM

Well, that's interesting. Part no: 18069-1156?
I looked at Bike Bandit, Revzilla, Partzilla, and two other new OEM parts sellers and they all show the parts as "Unavailable".

The 1999 and 2000 Drifters used a different part number than all the other 1500 & 1600 bikes.
And they were half the price!
But they are unavailable so that doesn't matter.
The other bikes use part no: 18069-1161.
Kawasaki uses part no: 18069-xxxx for many bikes of various displacement so I don't know if the bolt spacing and flange size changes or if it is I.D. maybe that is the difference?

After searching online with no answer for what the difference is I am hoping it is that they just have a different finish, chrome or polished instead of plain steel.

I am watching Ebay for a used set.
There is currently two listed and I have a question sent to one seller so maybe I will be able to buy some soon.

And hopefully they will fit correctly!

Thanks for replying, that made me do more searching  :)

Posted by OR Seedman
 - December 30, 2020, 12:20:29 PM

since they are available for about $25 each from Kawasaki and you need 4 of them, I definitely would look on ebay if nobody here has some...any model of Vulcan 1500/1600 stock clamps work....I put nomad exhaust on my 1600 classic engine I just put in my Drifter and they worked perfectly....part numbers are all the same.

Posted by JagLite
 - December 26, 2020, 20:16:38 PM

Well, I searched for another 2 hours and can't find those pipe clamps.
Anybody with aftermarket pipes willing to sell or trade the stock exhaust clamps?
Nothing new for me to lose things, I do it all the time.

Posted by JagLite
 - December 25, 2020, 21:07:01 PM

Well, things started well for the exhaust sound comparison.   8)
I set up my video camera and started the bike up with my Borla exhaust:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrbQ8Y6PTCw

Huh? I thought I could embed a video but I am not figuring that out...
Hopefully the link to YouTube works.

Here is a comparison picture of the two systems:

My custom Borla straight through system weighs so little compared with the stock multi-piece system!
The stock pipes are heavy  :(

But I can't include a sound comparison because after I shot the video and removed my system I discovered that I can't find the head pipe flange collars to bolt the modified stock system back on.
I know I have them, I searched for hours with no success. ARGH!

I will keep searching but I may end up installing the Borla again.
I do love how it sounds...  ;)

Posted by JagLite
 - November 24, 2020, 21:13:08 PM

I will try to remember to shoot a video for the sound of the Borla before I take it off and mount the modified stock system and do a similar video for the sound. I also wonder what it will sound like...
It won't be a riding video, we have snow on the ground here.

Posted by Old Drifter
 - November 23, 2020, 08:07:03 AM

Thanks for posting the detailed info on the modified exhaust project. As Marco said, I'm also interested in hearing how it sounds when it's completed.

Posted by mittico68
 - November 23, 2020, 01:39:23 AM

Good to know that you're still on the road.
As for the last-in-time mod, it would be nice to hear how it sounds. Just curious...
BTW: Maybe you should consider to add a sidecar, so Bobby could ride together with your passenger!  ;)

Posted by JagLite
 - November 22, 2020, 20:42:32 PM

Winter mods for the 2020-2021 season, or as we will probably remember this year as the "Covid Year".
I put the dual seat back on so that Robyn could ride with me anytime she wanted to.
That was one time all summer. That's okay, I just wanted her to know she is welcome to ride anytime.
Bobby doesn't want her to come because she won't ride with me if I bring him.

I am going to put the stock exhaust system back on even though the Borla system sounds so nice.
My "old muffler look" didn't appeal to anyone except me.  :-\  So it goes.

But I decided to modify the stock system to hopefully let a bit more Umph out of it.
I cut the primary muffler open to see what it looked like inside.
It has a closed tube drilled with a lot of little holes where each of the head pipe inlets bolt to the muffler.
I considered cutting them off then decided to leave them in place but to cut a couple large holes in them to reduce the restriction more and let some of the sound wave escape intact instead of broken up by the tiny holes:

Then I welded the muffler back together:

After it was all closed up and repainted I opened up the secondary muffler to see what it looked like inside:

I cut around the pipe just inside of the end cap to pull it out:

Those tubes are straight through with no baffles. It is interesting that the larger tube they smaller tubes go through act as an expansion chamber because there is a hole in each of the smaller tubes to allow the pressure wave to go into the larger diameter pipe. Or something like that anyway. There is just one small hole (1/4") in the side of each through tube. I couldn't get a picture of that though.

So what is inside the secondary muffler tube?

Two long tubes that the two end tubes slide over that run almost full length of the outer tube.
I could shine a light into the far end (the inlet from the primary muffler) and it was easy to see from the end through the two long tubes.

The "figure 8" plate just guides the end tubes onto the two long tubes, it is not a baffle.
The exhaust flow comes into the secondary muffler and can go directly into the two full length tubes or around the tubes in the are up to the middle baffle plate that closes off the first chamber. Some of the pressure wave will go into the long tubes but most of it expands and goes around the tubes, hits the baffle and bounces back to the inlet. That's how I understand it working anyway, sound wave experts may know a better way to describe it.

The actual exhaust gasses flow through the twin long tubes and the length acts as a way to dissipate the volume similar to a long straight through exhaust compared to a short straight through system.

I considered drilling around the center baffle plate and removing the two long tubes, then cutting my Borla muffler apart and putting the core and packing in the stock secondary muffler... But I decided to just weld the end cap back on and see how it sounds with the modified primary muffler first.

Robyn on our one ride together this summer:

Bobby was not happy he didn't get to ride that time!  :(

Posted by JagLite
 - May 15, 2018, 23:35:01 PM

I don't think he noticed it, he was having too much fun going for a ride after so many winter months. He sure does love seeing people in cars beside us.

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - May 14, 2018, 19:45:11 PM

 What does Bobby think of this new fangled thingy on his ride?

Posted by JagLite
 - May 14, 2018, 18:53:50 PM

The only addition to my Drifter this winter is a tire pressure monitor.

From Amazon and under $60

Like many things the instructions are less than clear but with enough playing with it I was able to set the parameters I wanted, screwed on the sensors that replaced the smart caps I had on it and went for a ride.
It works!

I was surprised how the pressure and temperature increased when riding.
The front tire gained 2 pounds, the rear gained 5.
Temp on the front only went up a couple degrees but the rear went from 60 to 80!
The front cooled down almost instantly, the rear took several minutes.
I took the picture about 5 minutes after stopping so the pressure had gone back down.
I have them at 38 front and 40 rear cold.

Hopefully it will last.

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