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Posted by Adventure_Boy
- May 31, 2017, 11:09:01 AMSo how exactly do you set the bikes idle speed and how do you know what it is idling at since there is no rpm gauge?
Also this may be a stupid thing to say but after letting it run for a while the motor was really hot where you could feel the heat being about 1-2 ft away which got me thinking "is my radiator working?" Is there a way to know that it's actually functioning? The fan never turned on when the bike became hot. Also while the bike was running I squeezed the cooling tube closest to the thermostat and there was no pressure. Does this mean the thermostat is bad?
Posted by Troll
- May 31, 2017, 07:56:19 AMIdle speed should be 1000 rpm. It's NOT a Harley...and by the way, they are supposed to idle at 1000 rpm, too!
Posted by Adventure_Boy
- May 30, 2017, 20:26:11 PMWell I'm pleased to say that I decided to try the fuel pump after I cleaned it and it sounds strong. At first I did not put any gas in the tank and cranked the motor over to hear if there were any weird sounds coming from the engine. After not hearing anything unusual I went ahead and put gas in the tank and fired her up! It started on the first try but then stalled out. A BUNCH of RUST came shooting out of the exhaust as I kept it running until it warmed up. I kept the old spark plugs in when starting it for the first time and after letting it run for a while and changed them out for the new ones. The old spark plugs came out cleaner than before haha The bike has a rough idle and kept stalling if I did not twist the throttle. I finally got it warmed up and she sounds like a beast! It does always sound and feel like its on the edge of stalling though. Is that normal or does it need to be tuned?
Tell me what you guys think?
Here is a link to the video.
https://goo.gl/photos/1HZxT6ne3aYiFPBG6
Posted by Old Drifter
- May 27, 2017, 17:14:23 PMI would say no. Replace it!
Posted by Adventure_Boy
- May 27, 2017, 10:55:27 AMSo I figured out why the tank always had little flakes coming out no matter what I tried. I removed the fuel pump to find that it was completely rusted. Feeling defeated I thought it was ruined I might as well try to fix it and ifind it doesn't work I'll buy a new one. I let the pump sit in vinegar for 2 hours and then began scrubbing and hitting it with the water hose. Soon enough all the rust was removed. I air dried it from a compressor until it was completely dry.
So is it a good idea to attempt to use it again?
Posted by Troll
- May 12, 2017, 19:14:25 PMThe filter will catch anything down to 3 microns....not big enough to see. Might not be a bad idea to have a spare filter lying around in case you plug that one up...http://www.vulcangadgets.com/files/ff_replacement.html
Posted by Adventure_Boy
- May 11, 2017, 12:20:54 PMMy other question is at what point can I turn on the motorcycle?
I had gotten the tank to only have little pieces of rust flakes come out with clean water. Is it safe to turn on the motorcycle? Will the filters catch the flakes or is this a horrible idea?
Posted by Troll
- May 06, 2017, 19:52:03 PMVinegar is a mild acid, so you need a base to counter act the acidic action. Water should have done it, but maybe water with a few tums or other ant-acid would do it
Posted by Adventure_Boy
- May 06, 2017, 17:25:10 PMHey Guys,
So I'm having a hard time sealing off all areas of the fuel tank when I put the vinegar inside. It seems to still leak on me. Do you have any suggestions?
Im also hesitant due to when I did it the first time the vinegar actually ate through the bottom of my gas cap and disintegrated it to the point that the spring fell out and I had to purchase a new cap. Any suggestions there as well?
I've attached pictures of what condition the tank is now. I thought adding gasoline and mixing it around would stop the vinegar process but I was undoubtedly wrong.
Posted by Adventure_Boy
- April 27, 2017, 16:55:14 PMQuote from: drifter-paul on April 27, 2017, 01:12:24 AMWell I am everything that is a newcomer so I wont touch the water pump if its not worth it.I wouldn't bother removing the pump. It's fiddly and you don't get any useful view. Not a job for a newcomer, IMHO.
I will try soaking in vinegar one more time and then immediately after putting baking soda into the tank and swish it around. I will update you all after I have done so. Any more tips would be appreciated.
Posted by drifter-paul
- April 27, 2017, 01:12:24 AMI wouldn't bother removing the pump. It's fiddly and you don't get any useful view. Not a job for a newcomer, IMHO.
Posted by Pilgrim
- April 26, 2017, 20:18:55 PMI don't think there is a correct amount just mix up a box in five gallons and pour it in, it should work pretty quick. Then rinse it out good. If there is rust in tank it will probably return unless you coat the tank.
Did you pull the fuel pump out and check it? Never had one out and don't know if you can examine the tank better with it out or not. Someone who has changed a fuel pump can tell you how much of the inside of the tank is visible.
They sell gas tank sealer called RED-KOTE..search it.
Posted by Adventure_Boy
- April 26, 2017, 18:06:28 PMQuote from: Pilgrim on April 26, 2017, 15:31:58 PMSo after emptying the vinegar from the tank and rinsing it with water do I add Baking Soda in with water and let it sit? If so how long should I let it soak and then rinse?I think baking soda will raise the ph and neutralize the vinegar.
How much baking soda should I use in a 5 gallon tank?
Posted by Pilgrim
- April 26, 2017, 15:31:58 PMI think baking soda will raise the ph and neutralize the vinegar.
Posted by Adventure_Boy
- April 26, 2017, 13:15:38 PMHello Everyone,
UPDATE: So I removed the gas tank and filled it to the top with white vinegar and let it sit for about a week. When I went to pour the vinegar out the water was still very clear (hint of green color) with little brown flakes coming out. It seemed like I could not get the brown flakes to stop coming out as I kept rinsing the tank. The tank looked very clean and you could see the clean metal on the bottom and walls of the tank however brown flakes kept coming out. I rinsed about 100 times and toward the end the tank started to turn brown. I'm assuming its because the tank was still coated with vinegar and the vinegar will keep doing its things. I researched that Vinegar mixed with air on metal with actually create rust! I put gasoline back into the tank and swashed it around trying to coat the entire tank hoping it would stop the vinegar from reacting. I checked the tank this morning and the gasoline looks brown again... Should I try again with the white vinegar? Is there another technique that I could use to stop the reaction after I pour the vinegar out?
I researched actual rust removers but they are so expensive when you need 5 gallons. Its about $100 for 5 gallons.