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Posted by Adventure_Boy
 - April 27, 2017, 16:55:14 PM
Quote from: drifter-paul on April 27, 2017, 01:12:24 AM

I wouldn't bother removing the pump. It's fiddly and you don't get any useful view. Not a job for a newcomer, IMHO.
::)

Well I am everything that is a newcomer so I wont touch the water pump if its not worth it.

I will try soaking in vinegar one more time and then immediately after putting baking soda into the tank and swish it around. I will update you all after I have done so. Any more tips would be appreciated.

Posted by drifter-paul
 - April 27, 2017, 01:12:24 AM

I wouldn't bother removing the pump. It's fiddly and you don't get any useful view. Not a job for a newcomer, IMHO.
::)

Posted by Pilgrim
 - April 26, 2017, 20:18:55 PM

I don't think there is a correct amount just mix up a box in five gallons and pour it in, it should work pretty quick. Then rinse it out good. If there is rust in tank it will probably return unless you coat the tank.
Did you pull the fuel pump out and check it? Never had one out and don't know if you can examine the tank better with it out or not. Someone who has changed a fuel pump can tell you how much of the inside of the tank is visible.
They sell gas tank sealer called RED-KOTE..search it.

Posted by Adventure_Boy
 - April 26, 2017, 18:06:28 PM
Quote from: Pilgrim on April 26, 2017, 15:31:58 PM

I think baking soda will raise the ph and neutralize the vinegar.

So after emptying the vinegar from the tank and rinsing it with water do I add Baking Soda in with water and let it sit? If so how long should I let it soak and then rinse?

How much baking soda should I use in a 5 gallon tank?

Posted by Pilgrim
 - April 26, 2017, 15:31:58 PM

I think baking soda will raise the ph and neutralize the vinegar.

Posted by Adventure_Boy
 - April 26, 2017, 13:15:38 PM

Hello Everyone,

UPDATE: So I removed the gas tank and filled it to the top with white vinegar and let it sit for about a week. When I went to pour the vinegar out the water was still very clear (hint of green color) with little brown flakes coming out. It seemed like I could not get the brown flakes to stop coming out as I kept rinsing the tank. The tank looked very clean and you could see the clean metal on the bottom and walls of the tank however brown flakes kept coming out. I rinsed about 100 times and toward the end the tank started to turn brown. I'm assuming its because the tank was still coated with vinegar and the vinegar will keep doing its things. I researched that Vinegar mixed with air on metal with actually create rust! I put gasoline back into the tank and swashed it around trying to coat the entire tank hoping it would stop the vinegar from reacting. I checked the tank this morning and the gasoline looks brown again... Should I try again with the white vinegar? Is there another technique that I could use to stop the reaction after I pour the vinegar out?

I researched actual rust removers but they are so expensive when you need 5 gallons. Its about $100 for 5 gallons.

Posted by Adventure_Boy
 - March 08, 2017, 20:11:26 PM

So I just found more information that I need help with in regards to spark plugs. In Partzilla.com it shows 3 different spark plugs you can use DPR5EA-9, DPR6EA-9 and DPR7EA-9. From my research I'm able to find that these all dissipate heat differently. I live in the desert in California where the tempertures get pretty hot 90-100's usually. Is there a certain one I should be using. I read some people are putting the DPR5's in the rear cylinders and the DPR6's in the front.

Posted by Old Drifter
 - March 08, 2017, 15:25:02 PM
Quote from: Adventure_Boy on March 08, 2017, 14:03:27 PM

Oh thank goodness. I wasn't sure but it didn't look good.

What exactly do you mean by clean? I've ordered new NGK spark plugs. Do you mean clean the spark plug housing?

No, just the plugs with a wire brush. Since you're getting new ones, just install the new ones.
Posted by Adventure_Boy
 - March 08, 2017, 14:03:27 PM

Oh thank goodness. I wasn't sure but it didn't look good.

What exactly do you mean by clean? I've ordered new NGK spark plugs. Do you mean clean the spark plug housing?

Posted by Old Drifter
 - March 08, 2017, 13:09:55 PM

They look normal for a bike that has been sitting. Don't overthink this, just clean, re-gap them and put them back in.

Posted by Adventure_Boy
 - March 08, 2017, 12:20:54 PM

Hey Everyone,

So it looks like I may have some bad news. I took the spark plugs out and the tips look like there is rust on them. Does this mean there is a leak or broken seal and water may have gotten into the head? What should I do from this point?

Posted by Pilgrim
 - March 07, 2017, 18:56:02 PM
Posted by Adventure_Boy
 - March 07, 2017, 11:42:26 AM

Thank you for the responses! I actually have my uncles Yuasa battery in my garage but it's no longer holding a charge. Is there a way to repair the battery?

Also I was going to pick up some parts today but got confused when I read a comment about spark plugs. Is there a particular spark plug to use? The bike had NGK's but I read a comment that someone had said that you are supposed to set or make sure of the correct size gap on the spark plug before putting it in? What spark plugs do you guys use?

Posted by drifter-paul
 - March 07, 2017, 02:33:02 AM

You want big cranking amps, these are 4" pistons. Cold Cranking Amps (CCA) CCA is a rating used in the battery industry to define a battery's ability to start an engine in cold temperatures. ... The rating refers to the number of amps a 12-volt battery can deliver at 0°F for 30 seconds while maintaining a voltage of at least 7.2 volts.This will be listed in the battery catalogue at your supplier, can't remember the numbers, 320 seems familiar.

Regardless of the numbers, a 12V 14 Ah will be fine for a 4 cylinder 1000cc, for a big twin you need 12V 18Ah.

Posted by Trall
 - March 06, 2017, 18:23:20 PM
Quote from: Troll on March 06, 2017, 16:22:25 PM

I'm running a 20 from Yuasa. AGM is acid glass mat....a sealed battery...like this one. You can find them cheaper if you look around. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yuasa-HP-Maintenance-Free-Battery-1999-2005-Kawasaki-VN1500-Vulcan-Nomad-Drifter-/391296126340?hash=item5b1b110d84:g:yXkAAOSwnDZUBhVl&vxp=mtr

Yusa are my pic for best battery but watch out for fakes and knockoffs online. A original Yusa is going cost at least 70 on up.
My local dealer was $90 for mine.
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