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Posted by Tfrank59
 - March 02, 2017, 00:04:01 AM

Fair enough. I guess for me the jury's out whether this filter is going to be an improvement.  I'll get out in the next day or so and see see how she performs. 

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - March 01, 2017, 20:42:20 PM

  Tfrank I can only say that I bought my filter new, put the oil on, let the oil dry over night. Since I have been using the K&N product I have never had any issues with the bike. I am a firm believer in the K&N brand and product.

Posted by Tfrank59
 - March 01, 2017, 18:39:12 PM

Yeah, and if that's how new ones come--or maybe just mine?--there should have been a clear statement in the directions to the effect that "this filter has been pre-oiled at the factory, so do not add oil to it...yada yada"  If I'm correct, now mine should need to be oiled, as I've washed out not only the factory oil but also my extra oil, so in order to trap dust and crap it's going to need something on there.  I'm going to try running it "plain" first and see if the bike performs like it should; afterwards then (assuming it's all good), I'll add a coat of new oil.

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - March 01, 2017, 16:57:19 PM

Well perhaps that is why it said nothing of putting oil on yours because it was done for you. I know mine was white and I was told to oil it.....

Posted by Tfrank59
 - March 01, 2017, 15:58:11 PM

Okay here's what I did I took out the K&N Filter put the air filter cover back on and started the bike up and took a ride and it ran perfect. So what I've concluded is the K&N was suffocating my bike. So what I did is washed all the oil out of it and now I'm letting it dry. Something tells me it was pre oiled and then I put oil on top of oil and that was mistake. I'll let you know how it goes after the thing dries out and I put the k&n filter back in and I try riding the bike again

Posted by Tfrank59
 - March 01, 2017, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: Troll on February 19, 2017, 15:05:06 PM

I have had and currently do have K&Ns in almost  (they don't make a filter for the W-650) every vehicle I own. There is no comparison between a paper filter and one that lets the engine breath. I saw a 10 hp difference on a dyno run of my 98" shovel head, going from a hi-pro foam to a K&N...Your engine WILL run leaner with a K&N than with a paper filter....so you may need to re-jet or raise the needle. The big thing is that if you are currently running on the rich side of perfect, it should correct that for you. They will last forever, and the filtration is far superior to a stock filter. A trip through the Utah red rock deserts proved that to me....red dust in everything, but not a speck inside the filter.....

Well I got the K&N filter in there and now the thing doesn't want to rev above about 3500-- it just breaks up, does that mean it's too lean? It must be what you said I've got to adjust the needle. With the Dino jet kit I got a bunch of spacers for the needle  – should I put a couple of those under there or maybe just change the e-clip setting higher?  When I installed the Dino jet kit last year I adjusted my screw setting from the stock setting which was one and three-quarter turns out to two turns. Should I adjust that now too?  Thanks for whatever help you can give me
Posted by Tfrank59
 - March 01, 2017, 06:41:59 AM

OK Ratman, that's a really good YouTube and it shows that recharging or in my case pre-oiling the new filter isn't going to restrict airflow so I'm gonna go ahead and do it. Thanks a lot.

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - March 01, 2017, 01:10:50 AM

  Ok not sure of that......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g9cynpmNQI

the only way I deviate from this is that I use Dawn dish soap to clean my air filter and then let it dry and then use the oil and mine is blue..lol....

Posted by Tfrank59
 - March 01, 2017, 00:20:24 AM
Quote from: CDNRatMan on February 22, 2017, 12:17:09 PM

Just remember to get the K&N oil to prime it.......

OK now I'm confused because I bought the K&N oil, and today my filter showed up and in the instructions it says nothing about pre-oiling it. what's up with that?
Posted by Tfrank59
 - February 22, 2017, 13:29:12 PM

Funny I just went out in the garage poking around and I found a spray bottle of K & N air filter cleaner, and I thought I had some of their oil – now I'm thinking back a few bikes ago I think I had a K&N foam filter for my KTM.  If it wasn't K&N oil I used it was something I purchased at like AutoZone and it did the job just fine.

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - February 22, 2017, 12:53:28 PM

I am not going to say don't see why not, but I bought theirs just because it was on sale....lol...and I bought the big can and shared it.....

Posted by Tfrank59
 - February 22, 2017, 12:42:57 PM

Does it have to be their name brand oil or can I use another brand air filter oil

Posted by CDNRatMan
 - February 22, 2017, 12:17:09 PM

  Just remember to get the K&N oil to prime it.......

Posted by Tfrank59
 - February 22, 2017, 11:39:08 AM

okay, just ordered a K & N and to my surprise got it for $45 (not 53) with free shipping. 8)

Posted by Tfrank59
 - February 20, 2017, 13:48:25 PM

yep, you got me there.  guess I'll pony up the 53$ and get one.  at least it lasts a long time.

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