Drive shaft noise

Started by furok, October 22, 2023, 17:44:08 PM

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Recovering H-D owner...W-650 Cafe' No excuses...Ride it or sell it to someone who will!

chief

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'02 Vulcan Drifter 1500

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Why not just replace the $20 ujoint?

Recovering H-D owner...W-650 Cafe' No excuses...Ride it or sell it to someone who will!

furok

Update - draft shaft was coming apart at the U-joint.
New one on order.


53Indian

Sorry, that's the early one, think it's this one... 


53Indian


53Indian

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Sounds like the bevel gear is shot, from memory cheap and easy enough to replace, a few on eBay...


furok

Thanks.
I rode it again and the noise/vibration is still there after cleaning the rear bevel gear area really well. I was riding and reached down and could feel the vibration at the rubber boot area between the engine and the swing arm. I am worried it is in the bevel gear area now. I still have no noise when the tire spins when lifted off the ground.
It could be a u-joint, but not sure.
I think I am at the point that I need to take it somewhere and have it diagnosed.


chief

I've used full synthetic since 2002. 10w-40 v-twin with no friction modifiers and GL-5 hypoid gear oil SAE 90 for the final drive. I know some have needed to replace the u-joint after a while. Disassembly and inspection is the only way I know of to check the shaft. Others may have additional solutions. I had a leaky seal on mine about 10 years ago.

Slainte mhaith - Good Health - Cheers

'02 Vulcan Drifter 1500

furok

I have a 2002 1500 Drifter. It has 52000 miles on it. I recently changed the oil both in the case (with a filter replacement as well) and the drive shaft. After much reading online I decided to try synthetic in both. They both have only had conventional oil in them before. It is the first time I have replaced the drive shaft oil since I have owned the bike. I don't know when it was replaced before I owned it. So, it could easily have been 30000 miles (or never) since the drive shaft oil was replaced. I replace the case oil every 3000 miles.
I used 10-40 in the case and 75-90 gear oil in the drive shaft.

Now for the problem and questions for you all. A few days later I took the bike on a long ride. After I stopped to fill the bike up with gas I pulled out, sped up to 55mph and then had to slow down for a light. When I disengaged the clutch (I pulled the lever in) I heard a sound that I couldn't identify. I would describe it as a low pitch, but a lot like the sound you would get by sticking a baseball card in your tire spokes as a kid. When the clutch was engaged (released) the sound went away. I rode it a little farther and the same thing happened whenever the clutch was disengaged, and I was moving at speeds above 45mph.
I decided to get towed home.
I have also been able to get the bike to make the noise when in every gear except 1st. I can get it to do it in neutral but only if I am going over 45mph. It is also somewhat random. It doesn't do it every time in every gear. It always does it in 4 and 5 once the bike is hot. The bike must be moving to make the noise. I cannot reproduce the noise if the bike is at rest no matter how hot the engine is.
Over the next 2 weeks here is what I have done:
1.     Replaced the case oil with conventional 10-40 – NO CHANGE.
2.     Replaced the drive shaft oil with 75-140 (still synthetic) – NO CHANGE.
3.     Checked all the bolts around the engine, exhaust, etc. can't find any loose bolts to cause a rattle of any kind.
4.     Raised the back tire off the ground to check for any play – NO PLAY, nice and firm.
5.     Raised back tire, put it in neutral, and spun the tire – no sound at all (other than brake pads rubbing on disk).

And the last time I rode the bike I was able to hear the sound for a fraction of a second when I released the throttle but not disengaging the clutch. I hadn't noticed that before, but I also don't know that I was specifically listening for it before so it may have been doing it.

I am pretty sure it is drive shaft related and not clutch related. I am also pretty sure it isn't the front bevel gear or u-joint since there is no sound when I spin the tire in neutral and no wobble at all while riding or when the tire is up in the air.

Does anyone have any ideas? Could it be that the rear bevel gears at the rear tire have gotten slightly out of alignment? Is that a hard fix? Engine work isn't a problem for me (I have done the top end on this bike engine before).

Thank you all!


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