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Author Topic: 1500 ebay deal - now done  (Read 146 times)

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1500 ebay deal - now done
« on: November 14, 2017, 16:37:04 PM »

So I finally finished putting everything back together and fixing all the little things that were in need of attention on the 1500 I got off of ebay for $720.  Total cost with parts and new accessories:  $1437.00  Took it out for a short spin today and I must say I like the way it rides.....not a nimble as my 800, but somewhat smoother and quite a bit more torque....here are some pics I took today after the short ride..I still need some tank badges....not sure if I want to go the same route as on my 800 (Indian head decal).  I put my 800 OEM tank badges against it, but the tank on the 1500 is not as curved so the badges don't sit flush...any ideas would be a great help....
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 18:02:32 PM »

  colours are nice, the F&S passenger floor boards look really good. That front fender guard really adds some bling to the machine......
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 19:11:42 PM »

Looks great. I like the Viking Bags. I had a set of Viking bags for a short period of time. I took off the Viking badges and added these Indian head conchos L & R. They fit perfectly in the same spot/hole.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTORCYCLE-BIKER-CONCHO-INDIAN-CHIEF-HEAD-DRESS-CON1000FL/361332554330?hash=item5421193a5a:g:EQgAAOSw~gRVkuCa

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTORCYCLE-BIKER-CONCHOS-INDIAN-CHIEF-HEAD-DRESS-CON1000FR/361332557560?hash=item54211946f8:g:vCMAAOSwLVZVkuHN
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 19:16:22 PM »

that's the fender rail I was going to use to make copies from....had it cleaned up and chromed....turned out really nice...

I like the idea of the Indian Head conches....I will have to look into that.

The only thing really left to do is I have to dip the solid chrome grips in some plasti dip for tools.....You can hardly hold onto them when riding....I don't know how anyone could ride with smooth metal grips like that...I am going to put a rubber coating in the middle of each one by taping off the ends and then repeatedly dipping them in the can of black I picked up today.  Hopefully that will take care of the issue....
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 23:12:20 PM »

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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2017, 03:44:25 AM »

Hair dryer to heat the 800 badges and press fit them to shape ? Haven't tested the theory on my 1500 badges, and sorry, no, not for sale, I sometimes revert to them from the Zambinis.

What a buy !!! Saw a '99 advertisied up in Qld, with 40K for $5000 US, but you have raised the 'Bargain' stakes!. Congratulations! Enjoy.
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2017, 19:57:47 PM »

That was one heck of a deal on that 1500! I'm happy for you! I only hope one day mine could look 1/2 that good!
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2017, 20:50:10 PM »

thanks.  I think the previous owner (original owner who bought it in June '02 brand new), had someone he knew doing a lot of the customizing....but he also had some mechanical work done a the shop I bought it through...clutch spring, plates, etc...but the cost of doing the bevel gear bearing (they quoted him $2500+) pushed him into dumping it on ebay through the shop...I put a BL Heavy Duty bearing in (industrial bearing) that has a higher RPM rating and tighter tolerances...at a cost of $4.95  vs  $38 for the oem that seems to go out at 30k miles or so.... ;)  I am pretty happy with the whole deal so far....bike seems to run strong...
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2017, 03:07:21 AM »

Hadn't heard of this 30K problem, I got 162K now without replacement. That's worse than the diaphragm spring plate weakness (80k) before the Mean Streak mod !!!
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2017, 08:34:43 AM »

My bevel bearing failed at about 75,000...I replaced it and now I have 115,000 with no further problems. I have the original clutch, too
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2017, 14:52:45 PM »

lots of Vulcan 1500 owners (not just drifters) have reported front bevel gear bearing failure at anywhere from 25k to 35k miles....seems to be quite common across the board on the 1500 engines....could be that the failure is due to harder riding than most Drifter owners subject their bikes to.  The oem bearings are a medium load rated bearing with so-so tolerances, so I looked around for something stronger.  I buy aftermarket farm equipment bearings all the time, so I got the specs and found a heavy duty bearing with tighter tolerance and 3,000 rpm higher rating at about 1/8 the cost.....not everything has to be OEM with a Kawasaki brand name price tag.... ;)

I dipped the grips yesterday and put them back on the bike today....much better...now I can actually hold onto the handlebars when accelerating..
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2017, 19:35:46 PM »

I've never heard that the bearing failure was widespread.  Is there an oil starvation problem in that area?
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2017, 19:43:50 PM »

not sure....the bearings on both the engine bevel gear and the shaft bevel gear are splashed with oil....but what the failure on the engine shaft one is caused by I have no idea.....
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2017, 21:58:43 PM »

OR : 
Great looking bike, and what a deal!!   Of course you had some sweat equity in the equation too -- time is money.    How many hours was the bevel gear bearing for you??     Would you be so kind as to share the bearing information for us??   
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2017, 16:01:10 PM »

total time is difficult to calculate....I was working on it between doing things on the research farm....I would say that if I focused on just doing the bearing, total time would have been about 4 hrs....I did try the trick of removing the rear engine mounts and lifting up the back of the engine to clear the frame with the lower bolts on the casing (like you see on youtube), but that doesn't work with a Drifter...not enough clearance above the rear cylinder head to the frame....so I had to crack the frame and move the engine a little bit sideways....but I did not have to completely take it out....just drained and disconnect the radiator, drained the oil, disconnected the drive shaft (checked it for tightness...all good there), pulled off the rectifier, rear fender and wheel, rear diff for the shaft drive (so I could slide the shaft off of the front gear as it is spring loaded at the rear differential which forces it forward) and the seat and tank...really not that complicated...

I bought the new bearing through Global Industries (have an account with them)  it is a 62mm outer diameter with 25mm inner shaft diameter  x 17mm thick...open bearings (no seal), running in an oil-bath (not greased).  I bought a BL HD bearing with higher specs (increased max rpm of 13,000 vs 10,000 and tighter tolerances).  cost was $4.84 plus shipping, but since I had other bearings for machinery in the order as well, the shipping is negligible  (shipping total was $5.95..order was over $80).  The casing gasket was bought off of ebay for $4.00 with free shipping....

I probably spent an additional 6-8 hours cleaning it up, fixing small nit-noid things and painting....not really a whole lot of time....always in between my research work....the biggest pain in the butt was that I forgot to put the tow plastic panels back on in front of the tank....Had everything put back together and then realized I had to lift the tank up to get to the push tab holes to re-mount them...DOH!  Live and learn, I guess.... ::)
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #16 on: Today at 12:25:54 »

total time is difficult to calculate....I was working on it between doing things on the research farm....I would say that if I focused on just doing the bearing, total time would have been about 4 hrs....I did try the trick of removing the rear engine mounts and lifting up the back of the engine to clear the frame with the lower bolts on the casing (like you see on youtube), but that doesn't work with a Drifter...not enough clearance above the rear cylinder head to the frame....so I had to crack the frame and move the engine a little bit sideways....but I did not have to completely take it out....just drained and disconnect the radiator, drained the oil, disconnected the drive shaft (checked it for tightness...all good there), pulled off the rectifier, rear fender and wheel, rear diff for the shaft drive (so I could slide the shaft off of the front gear as it is spring loaded at the rear differential which forces it forward) and the seat and tank...really not that complicated...

I bought the new bearing through Global Industries (have an account with them)  it is a 62mm outer diameter with 25mm inner shaft diameter  x 17mm thick...open bearings (no seal), running in an oil-bath (not greased).  I bought a BL HD bearing with higher specs (increased max rpm of 13,000 vs 10,000 and tighter tolerances).  cost was $4.84 plus shipping, but since I had other bearings for machinery in the order as well, the shipping is negligible  (shipping total was $5.95..order was over $80).  The casing gasket was bought off of ebay for $4.00 with free shipping....

I probably spent an additional 6-8 hours cleaning it up, fixing small nit-noid things and painting....not really a whole lot of time....always in between my research work....the biggest pain in the butt was that I forgot to put the tow plastic panels back on in front of the tank....Had everything put back together and then realized I had to lift the tank up to get to the push tab holes to re-mount them...DOH!  Live and learn, I guess.... ::)


That's funny, I did mine without removing the frame rail...but mine is an R model, the frame is a bit different
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Re: 1500 ebay deal - now done
« Reply #17 on: Today at 17:40:13 »

must be....there was absolutely no way to clear the bottom of the frame to remove the 2 lowest sitting casing bolts on this one.....I was lifting the entire rear of the bike up with the rear head against the frame well before the bolts would clear...
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